Is the narration of a narrator from a shaykh who engages in tadlis accepted if he narrates frequently from him?

The questioner : The Shaykh al-Mu'allimi (may Allah have mercy on him) mentioned that if a narrator or student narrates frequently from a shaykh who engages in tadlis, his narration from his shaykh is accepted, even if he uses the style of indeterminate attribution, as long as he narrates frequently from him... What is the validity of this statement? May Allah guide you. Did al-Mu'allimi (may Allah have mercy on him) mention it?

The Shaykh : First, what appears to me, and Allah knows best, is that this statement is not precise in its absolute form. It is only valid with a necessary condition, as you will see, if Allah wills. This is determined by the method of question and answer: Does this narrator, who narrates frequently from his shaykh who engages in tadlis, know about his tadlis or is he unaware of it? If he is unaware of his tadlis, the statement is not sound. If he knows about his tadlis, it is accepted. What is your opinion of this distinction?

The questioner : It remains that it appears that the one who narrates frequently fromThe Shaykh : ... knows him.

The Shaykh : You did not speak about the answer.

The questioner : I will answer.

The Shaykh : No, good deeds are best when done promptly. And this is what you will answer, as the saying goes, a bird in the hand or ten in the tree. I may forget and you may forget, like me, and not answer. Good deeds are best when done promptly. What is your opinion of this distinction?

The questioner : It appears that it is correct.

The Shaykh : And the statement you quoted contains a distinction?

The questioner : It refers back to it.

The Shaykh : You did not answer me?

The questioner : It does not contain this distinction that you mentioned, but it refers back to it.

The Shaykh : It refers back to the actor, who did it and I referred it back.

The questioner : BecauseThe Shaykh : al-Mu'allimi clarified.

The Shaykh : Answer, may Allah bless you.

The questioner : The sameThe Shaykh : al-Mu'allimi clarified and mentioned.

The Shaykh: What?

The questioner : He said, due to his frequent companionship with him, he came to know his hadith from the hadith of others and from the hadith of his shaykhs. So if he narrates a hadith that is not from the hadith of his shaykhs, he recognizes it.

The Shaykh : This does not contain the distinction that I mentioned.

The questioner : The one who knows about his tadlis, did you mention that he knows about his tadlis or not?

The Shaykh : I mean, is he aware that his shaykh sometimes engages in tadlis and sometimes states the chain explicitly, or is he unaware?

The questioner : If he narrates frequently from him, then he knows.

The Shaykh : No, no, there is no necessary connection. I mean, you are taking this by way of deduction. We want a text on the subject?

The questioner : I do not have a text, but the one who is constantly with the shaykh knows him.

The Shaykh : No, my brother, this is not a condition. You do not know, within the limits of what you have studied, that many scholars and memorizers of hadith do not describe the narrator or know about his tadlis. Or in other words, perhaps the question is confusing for you: Do you believe that every narrator about whom a hadith scholar said he is a tadlis narrator shares in this statement? Does every memorizer?

The questioner: No.

The Shaykh : So if this answer is correct regarding the memorizers from the scholars of the Sunnah, how do you say that a narrator is supposed to know? My brother, he knows that he narrates frequently from him, but he may not know that he is a tadlis narrator. Therefore, the phrase I mentioned earlier, quoting from the Shaykh al-Mu'allimi (may Allah have mercy on him), must be qualified with the condition that he knows about his shaykh's tadlis. Then, despite his frequent narration, he uses it as evidence and narrates, without specifying that this is from... as al-Layth ibn Sa'd did, as we mentioned before you came. Al-Layth ibn Sa'd realized this, and he was frequent in narrating from Abu al-Zubayr, so he said to him, "Did you hear everything you narrate from Abu al-Zubayr from him?" He said, "No, this is a testimony from Abu al-Zubayr that accuses him of tadlis." The Hafiz, the Imam, the Imam of the people of Egypt in his time, whom some preferred over Imam Malik in Madinah, said, "Then teach me the hadiths that I heard from Abu al-Zubayr." This is the Hafiz, and this is the distinguished student. Therefore, it is very necessary to qualify the phrase you quoted fromThe Shaykh : al-Mu'allimi (may Allah have mercy on him).

The questioner : Unless he knows about his tadlis?

The Shaykh : Yes, exactly.