Is the hadith (that Allah has angels who travel about, seeking out the circles of dhikr) evidence for the permissibility of collective dhikr?
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The questioner : In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. And may peace and blessings be upon the noblest of the prophets and messengers. To the honorableThe Shaykh : scholar Muhammad Nasir al-Din al-Albani. May peace, mercy, and blessings of Allah be upon you. Regarding the long hadith about the traveling angels, the meaning of the hadith suggests to us that they were remembering Allah in groups with one voice. What is the interpretation of this meaning? And is a man who sits with them rewarded, even if he sat for a purpose other than remembering Allah?
The Shaykh : As for whether he is rewarded, no, my brother. But it is hoped that he will be rewarded when he attends this gathering and it becomes pleasing to him, so his previous intention, for which he attended without intending worship, changes, and his attendance thereafter becomes worship, and reward is recorded for him. But if we imagine that he attended from the beginning of the session to the end, say, for a material benefit or to see one of the people sitting there, the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) saidSahih al-Bukhari 1 so he has no reward. As for the first part of the question, which is that it appears these people were remembering Allah in a group with one voice, this, my brother, comes from the illusion caused by the existence of such gatherings where voices are raised in the remembrance of Allah, the Exalted, collectively. But the righteous Salaf did not know of such raising of voices with one voice. We mention authentic hadiths in which the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) disapproved, in more than one hadith, of raising the voice in dhikr, even if it was one voice, except in specific places such as the talbiyah and the like, which is a different matter. Among what is authentic from the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) in the Muwatta of Imam Malik and elsewhere is that he said and in another wording Therefore, the custom of the later scholars of collective dhikr in some places, such as, for example, the ten takbirs after the Maghrib and Fajr prayers collectively: first, raising the voice is not prescribed, as you heard from the previous hadiths. Second, gathering to raise the voice with one voice: although when the Messenger (peace be upon him) said this long hadith, the people of the time did not gather to remember Allah, Blessed and Exalted is He, either by reciting the Qur'an, with one of them reading and the others listening, following the method of his saying (peace and blessings be upon him) when he said once to Ubayy ibn Ka'b and another time to Abdullah ibn Mas'ud He said, "Shall I recite the Qur'an to you and it was revealed to you?" He said, Sahih al-Bukhari 5056 This is how the Salaf were: one of them would read and the others would listen.
The continuation of the topic is in the series Nawadir of the Gateway to the Heritage of Imam al-Albani, tape number 24, topic number 2.
The Shaykh : As for whether he is rewarded, no, my brother. But it is hoped that he will be rewarded when he attends this gathering and it becomes pleasing to him, so his previous intention, for which he attended without intending worship, changes, and his attendance thereafter becomes worship, and reward is recorded for him. But if we imagine that he attended from the beginning of the session to the end, say, for a material benefit or to see one of the people sitting there, the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) said
The reward of deeds depends upon the intentions and every person will get the reward according to what he has intended.
إنما الأعمال بالنيات وإنما لكل امرئ ما نوىO people, each of you is conversing with his Lord, so let not some of you raise his voice over others in recitation, thereby harming the believers.
يا أيها الناس كلكم يناجي ربه فلا يجهر بعضكم على بعض بالقراءة فتؤذوا المؤمنينwith the Qur'an, thereby causing harm to the believers
بالقرآن فتؤذوا المؤمنينRead the Qur'an to me
اقرأ علي القرآنI like to hear it from another person.
إني أحب أن أسمعه من غيريThe continuation of the topic is in the series Nawadir of the Gateway to the Heritage of Imam al-Albani, tape number 24, topic number 2.
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