When does the prohibition of gathering begin on Friday?

The questioner : This is the first issue, the athar of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him). But they said that the hadith of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) is the prohibition of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) from gathering on Friday. They said it is divided into three times: before the adhan, during the adhan, and they said after the prayer... yesterday.

The Shaykh : What did you intend?

The questioner: Go ahead.

The Shaykh : What did you intend? We did not bring the hadith of gathering.

The questioner : No, he is trying to explain this now; he is trying to cite evidence for permissibility.

The Shaykh : My brother, what we presented is a barrier. May Allah guide you to what we presented; it is all evidence of a barrier. Where is the permissibility? Suppose the hadith of gathering is not reported. What is the evidence for permissibility?

The questioner : They also derive the ruling from this, conversely, meaning other than the athar of Abu Hurayrah. If we combine... they might bring us out from this door as well, because the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) prohibited gathering, but the people agreed that it is permissible after the prayer. Or what made them explicitly state it is after the prayer and prohibit it before?

The Shaykh : You are now reminding me of our friend Abu Talha. Who is the man who says this? A scholar? A student of knowledge?

The questioner : A student of knowledge, yes.

The Shaykh : Okay, student of knowledge, what is the text of the hadith?

The questioner : He says that the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) prohibited gathering on Friday.

The Shaykh : Before the prayer.

The questioner : Does the hadith have a phrase before the prayer?

The Shaykh: Yes.

The questioner : I do not know it. Then the problem is ended. May Allah reward you. If the hadith is before the prayer, the problem is ended. May Allah reward you.

Another questioner : The hadith of Ibn Abbas: The Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) would alternate with us in preaching, fearing boredom...

The Shaykh : This is the hadith of Ibn Mas'ud.

Another questioner : Ibn Mas'ud, excuse me. Where do they go from this issue? They are preaching while the imam is preaching. The hadith of Ibn Mas'ud: "The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) would alternate with us in preaching, fearing boredom."

The Shaykh : What is the relation of the hadith to what we were discussing?

Another questioner : That they cause boredom in the hearts of the worshippers with two or three sermons before the khutbah, then the Friday khutbah, and then someone comments on the Friday khutbah, as happens in many mosques...

The Shaykh : Do you mean you want to take this hadith as evidence for prohibition?Another questioner : Yes, this is a witness to the prohibition.

The Shaykh: No.

The questioner : What is taken from it?

The Shaykh : What does boredom mean?

Another questioner : So that the Companions do not get bored of...

The Shaykh : Is there boredom every Friday?

Another questioner : No, from the lessons before Friday and after Friday, as happens now, as happens in many mosques. They hold a lesson, "O Shaykh." This leads to boredom. The imam preaches, especially in mosques an hour and a quarter before, or an hour before, and an hour after. What is this...

The Shaykh : The hadith of Ibn Mas'ud, may Allah reward you, means that I do not give you a sermon and lesson every day, and that it does not remain the same, fearing boredom for them. As for the current research, which is delivering one lesson a week before the preacher's khutbah, boredom is not applicable here.