What is the ruling on making du'a' for the ruler without the consent of the one making the du'a'?
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The questioner : The ruling on making du'a' for the ruler without your consent
The Shaykh : His age is what he is pleased with
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : They say, "Amr is not pleased"
Another questioner : The du'a' maker himself is not pleased
Another questioner : Without the du'a' maker being pleased
The Shaykh : Yes, the pronoun refers to the nearest mentioned
onAl-Halabi : Our Shaykh mentioned the pronoun of address, "without your consent"
The Shaykh : In any case, clarify your question, because there is now a misunderstanding
The questioner : The ruling on making du'a' for the ruler without the consent of the one making the du'a'
The Shaykh : Hmm, this clarifies it. But if you stop at "without his consent," the pronoun refers to the nearest mentioned
The questioner : I said "your consent," not "without your consent"
onAl-Halabi : Meaning, considering you as the one making du'a'
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : What is the difference between "his consent" and what is the second one?
onAl-Halabi : "Your consent" means, as if, what is the ruling on you making du'a' for another without your consent
The Shaykh : Ah, so once again, you must whisper the kaf
onAl-Halabi : Haha, this is in the science of tajwid
The Shaykh : Hehehe.
The questioner : May Allah preserve you, my master.
The Shaykh : Meaning, you say "your consent"
The questioner : "Your consent"
The Shaykh : Meaning, your self reaches me
The questioner : May Allah preserve you
Another questioner : It requires, my Shaykh, whispering "your consent"
The Shaykh : Yes, it is not whispering, this means I am forced?
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : You received the answer previously
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Correct.
The questioner : Well, meaning, perhaps it was mentioned to youThe Shaykh : Brother Abu Talal mentioned that I am an imam and khatib in Iraq, and my presence in the mosque where we do not know of a channel for da'wah there, that the da'i is frozen, is disabled if he is banned from the mosque, and with the existence of this condition, perhaps, meaning, I do not want to establish the benefit or clarify the benefit in it, there is benefit if it is found with the du'a' for the ruler, meaning now the situation is especially clear, meaning
Another questioner : Meaning, he was removed or dismissed from his position
The Shaykh : You said this just now
Another questioner : Yes, the reason is that he refused to make du'a' for the president or the ruler there in the Friday khutbah, so he is asking, meaning, if it is permissible to make du'a' for him while he is not pleased, that is the first point. And if there is, meaning, permissibility in this issue, meaning, the wording of the du'a', if this is permitted, then if there is a wording, meaning, you know it, advise him with it?
The Shaykh : If you follow the group in principle and make du'a' that the problem ends with this du'a' and there are no tails to it, meaning, it may be feared that this is a bait that drags in what follows, and as it is said, "The people of Mecca know their valleys, and the owner of the house knows best what is in it." If you think, or it is more likely, using the more correct expression, that the problem is resolved and those lost benefits can be obtained by agreeing to this bid'ah, then it is possible to be lenient with it. But if it is as I imagined, probably, that there is another issue after it, to which the second and third are subject, and it becomes later, as al-Ghazali says in his book: "From the Masters of the Rites," is the answer clear?
The questioner : Yes, it is clear.
The Shaykh : Then, if it is the first, your du'a' will not contain a violation, because the violation now is sufficient for us, the bid'ah, so we do not fall into another violation, which is that we praise the ruler who rules by other than what Allah has revealed. Rather, we make du'a' for him for guidance, success, and the reform of his inner circle, and the like of those correct meanings. I hope I have answered.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Praise be to Allah.
The Shaykh : His age is what he is pleased with
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : They say, "Amr is not pleased"
Another questioner : The du'a' maker himself is not pleased
Another questioner : Without the du'a' maker being pleased
The Shaykh : Yes, the pronoun refers to the nearest mentioned
onAl-Halabi : Our Shaykh mentioned the pronoun of address, "without your consent"
The Shaykh : In any case, clarify your question, because there is now a misunderstanding
The questioner : The ruling on making du'a' for the ruler without the consent of the one making the du'a'
The Shaykh : Hmm, this clarifies it. But if you stop at "without his consent," the pronoun refers to the nearest mentioned
The questioner : I said "your consent," not "without your consent"
onAl-Halabi : Meaning, considering you as the one making du'a'
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : What is the difference between "his consent" and what is the second one?
onAl-Halabi : "Your consent" means, as if, what is the ruling on you making du'a' for another without your consent
The Shaykh : Ah, so once again, you must whisper the kaf
onAl-Halabi : Haha, this is in the science of tajwid
The Shaykh : Hehehe.
The questioner : May Allah preserve you, my master.
The Shaykh : Meaning, you say "your consent"
The questioner : "Your consent"
The Shaykh : Meaning, your self reaches me
The questioner : May Allah preserve you
Another questioner : It requires, my Shaykh, whispering "your consent"
The Shaykh : Yes, it is not whispering, this means I am forced?
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : You received the answer previously
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Correct.
The questioner : Well, meaning, perhaps it was mentioned to youThe Shaykh : Brother Abu Talal mentioned that I am an imam and khatib in Iraq, and my presence in the mosque where we do not know of a channel for da'wah there, that the da'i is frozen, is disabled if he is banned from the mosque, and with the existence of this condition, perhaps, meaning, I do not want to establish the benefit or clarify the benefit in it, there is benefit if it is found with the du'a' for the ruler, meaning now the situation is especially clear, meaning
Another questioner : Meaning, he was removed or dismissed from his position
The Shaykh : You said this just now
Another questioner : Yes, the reason is that he refused to make du'a' for the president or the ruler there in the Friday khutbah, so he is asking, meaning, if it is permissible to make du'a' for him while he is not pleased, that is the first point. And if there is, meaning, permissibility in this issue, meaning, the wording of the du'a', if this is permitted, then if there is a wording, meaning, you know it, advise him with it?
The Shaykh : If you follow the group in principle and make du'a' that the problem ends with this du'a' and there are no tails to it, meaning, it may be feared that this is a bait that drags in what follows, and as it is said, "The people of Mecca know their valleys, and the owner of the house knows best what is in it." If you think, or it is more likely, using the more correct expression, that the problem is resolved and those lost benefits can be obtained by agreeing to this bid'ah, then it is possible to be lenient with it. But if it is as I imagined, probably, that there is another issue after it, to which the second and third are subject, and it becomes later, as al-Ghazali says in his book: "From the Masters of the Rites," is the answer clear?
The questioner : Yes, it is clear.
The Shaykh : Then, if it is the first, your du'a' will not contain a violation, because the violation now is sufficient for us, the bid'ah, so we do not fall into another violation, which is that we praise the ruler who rules by other than what Allah has revealed. Rather, we make du'a' for him for guidance, success, and the reform of his inner circle, and the like of those correct meanings. I hope I have answered.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Praise be to Allah.
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