5: Give us an example of an obligatory prayer in which six tashahhuds are required.
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The questioner : Give us an example of an obligatory prayer in which six tashahhuds are required:
The Shaykh : This has baffled many people.
The student: It is the Maghrib prayer.
The Shaykh : Which prayer, first of all? Which of the five prayers?
The student: Maghrib.
The Shaykh : The Maghrib prayer, okay, how is that?
The student: He caught up with the imam in the second tashahhud, but he did not catch up with the second rak'ah.
The Shaykh : Okay, he caught up with him in the first tashahhud.
The student: In the first tashahhud, yes, and he did not catch up with the second rak'ah.
The Shaykh : Very well.
The student: Then he stands up and performs the third rak'ah with the imam, and these are two tashahhuds.
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: And when the imam says the taslim, he stands up and completes the prayer, so the second rak'ah is for him, and that is the first tashahhud, so this is one tashahhud.
The Shaykh : That makes three.
The student: And when he performs the third rak'ah.
The student: Four.
The Shaykh : How?
The student: The third rak'ah has two tashahhuds.
The Shaykh : He caught up with the imam for two tashahhuds, but he did not catch up with anything but one rak'ah.
The student: He caught up with the imam for three.
The Shaykh : Three tashahhuds, my brother.
The student: Considering that...
The Shaykh : Wait.
The student: His intention is the Ibrahimiyyah prayer, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : What are the two tashahhuds?
The student: We mentioned that the third rak'ah has two tashahhuds.
The Shaykh : And what are the two tashahhuds? Meaning he said, "I bear witness that there is no god but Allah, and I bear witness that Muhammad..."
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Wait, everyone. He entered with the imam in the second rak'ah after missing the ruku', so he sat for the imam's first tashahhud, but he did not catch up with the rak'ah. This is one. Then the imam sat for the second tashahhud. This is two.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Where are the two tashahhuds?
The student: Considering, O Shaykh, that the Ibrahimiyyah prayer is called a tashahhud.
The Shaykh : No, no, I want two actual tashahhuds. Rest.
The student: The prayer is the Maghrib prayer.
The Shaykh : The prayer is the Maghrib prayer.
The student: He caught up with the first tashahhud with the imam.
The Shaykh : After missing the ruku'.
The student: After missing the ruku', this is one tashahhud.
The Shaykh : Good, this is one.
The student: And in the third rak'ah for the imam, he stood up as an addition, he stood up.
The Shaykh : Who stood up?
The student: The imam.
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: He was told, "Subhan Allah," so he sat down, so this is an addition.
The Shaykh : Okay.
The student: The addition of the second tashahhud with the imam makes this two. So the imam said the taslim, and they prostrated for forgetfulness regarding the addition.
The Shaykh : And the prostration for forgetfulness regarding the addition is after the taslim, and it includes a tashahhud according to some scholars.
The student: Yes, this is the third tashahhud.
The Shaykh : This is the third.
The student: Yes, and the ma'mum, this man, stood up to complete the prayer, so he performed the first tashahhud for himself. He performed the second rak'ah and the first tashahhud for himself. This is four.
The Shaykh : This is four.
The student: So when he sat for the prostration tashahhud in the third rak'ah, he stood up and remembered that he was in the Maghrib prayer, so he sat down. This is an addition that necessitates prostration after the taslim.
The Shaykh : Very well.
The student: So he says the taslim and prostrates.
The Shaykh : And he performs the final tashahhud.
The student: The final tashahhud, this is five.
The Shaykh : This is five.
The student: And he says the taslim.
The Shaykh : And he says the taslim, then he prostrates for forgetfulness.
The student: And he prostrates for forgetfulness and performs the sixth tashahhud regarding the addition.
The Shaykh : Well done, perfect, this is correct.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : No, this is correct, but I say that the correct view is that the prostration for forgetfulness after the taslim does not include a tashahhud. Based on this, do not imagine the issue.
The student: The prayer of fear...
The Shaykh : No, the prayer of fear is not considered one of the regular voluntary prayers. Okay, that's it.
The student: Repeat.
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: Repeat, repeat.
The Shaykh : We will repeat the solution. Okay, first, the prayer is the Maghrib prayer. How is that? A man entered with the imam in the second rak'ah after the ruku', so he sat with the imam for the first tashahhud. Then the imam sat for the second tashahhud, and the imam had made a mistake where his prostration is after the taslim, and it includes a tashahhud according to some scholars. So the imam said the taslim and prostrated for forgetfulness, and sat for the tashahhud, and the ma'mum followed him. How many is this?
The student: Three.
The Shaykh : Three. Then the ma'mum stood up to make up what he missed, and sat in the first rak'ah, which is his first tashahhud, and that is the fourth. Then this ma'mum, the one who joined late, made a mistake where his prostration is after the taslim. So when he performed the final tashahhud and said the taslim, he prostrated for forgetfulness, and performed the tashahhud and said the taslim. So this is six tashahhuds. Yes.
The Shaykh : This has baffled many people.
The student: It is the Maghrib prayer.
The Shaykh : Which prayer, first of all? Which of the five prayers?
The student: Maghrib.
The Shaykh : The Maghrib prayer, okay, how is that?
The student: He caught up with the imam in the second tashahhud, but he did not catch up with the second rak'ah.
The Shaykh : Okay, he caught up with him in the first tashahhud.
The student: In the first tashahhud, yes, and he did not catch up with the second rak'ah.
The Shaykh : Very well.
The student: Then he stands up and performs the third rak'ah with the imam, and these are two tashahhuds.
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: And when the imam says the taslim, he stands up and completes the prayer, so the second rak'ah is for him, and that is the first tashahhud, so this is one tashahhud.
The Shaykh : That makes three.
The student: And when he performs the third rak'ah.
The student: Four.
The Shaykh : How?
The student: The third rak'ah has two tashahhuds.
The Shaykh : He caught up with the imam for two tashahhuds, but he did not catch up with anything but one rak'ah.
The student: He caught up with the imam for three.
The Shaykh : Three tashahhuds, my brother.
The student: Considering that...
The Shaykh : Wait.
The student: His intention is the Ibrahimiyyah prayer, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : What are the two tashahhuds?
The student: We mentioned that the third rak'ah has two tashahhuds.
The Shaykh : And what are the two tashahhuds? Meaning he said, "I bear witness that there is no god but Allah, and I bear witness that Muhammad..."
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Wait, everyone. He entered with the imam in the second rak'ah after missing the ruku', so he sat for the imam's first tashahhud, but he did not catch up with the rak'ah. This is one. Then the imam sat for the second tashahhud. This is two.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Where are the two tashahhuds?
The student: Considering, O Shaykh, that the Ibrahimiyyah prayer is called a tashahhud.
The Shaykh : No, no, I want two actual tashahhuds. Rest.
The student: The prayer is the Maghrib prayer.
The Shaykh : The prayer is the Maghrib prayer.
The student: He caught up with the first tashahhud with the imam.
The Shaykh : After missing the ruku'.
The student: After missing the ruku', this is one tashahhud.
The Shaykh : Good, this is one.
The student: And in the third rak'ah for the imam, he stood up as an addition, he stood up.
The Shaykh : Who stood up?
The student: The imam.
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: He was told, "Subhan Allah," so he sat down, so this is an addition.
The Shaykh : Okay.
The student: The addition of the second tashahhud with the imam makes this two. So the imam said the taslim, and they prostrated for forgetfulness regarding the addition.
The Shaykh : And the prostration for forgetfulness regarding the addition is after the taslim, and it includes a tashahhud according to some scholars.
The student: Yes, this is the third tashahhud.
The Shaykh : This is the third.
The student: Yes, and the ma'mum, this man, stood up to complete the prayer, so he performed the first tashahhud for himself. He performed the second rak'ah and the first tashahhud for himself. This is four.
The Shaykh : This is four.
The student: So when he sat for the prostration tashahhud in the third rak'ah, he stood up and remembered that he was in the Maghrib prayer, so he sat down. This is an addition that necessitates prostration after the taslim.
The Shaykh : Very well.
The student: So he says the taslim and prostrates.
The Shaykh : And he performs the final tashahhud.
The student: The final tashahhud, this is five.
The Shaykh : This is five.
The student: And he says the taslim.
The Shaykh : And he says the taslim, then he prostrates for forgetfulness.
The student: And he prostrates for forgetfulness and performs the sixth tashahhud regarding the addition.
The Shaykh : Well done, perfect, this is correct.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : No, this is correct, but I say that the correct view is that the prostration for forgetfulness after the taslim does not include a tashahhud. Based on this, do not imagine the issue.
The student: The prayer of fear...
The Shaykh : No, the prayer of fear is not considered one of the regular voluntary prayers. Okay, that's it.
The student: Repeat.
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: Repeat, repeat.
The Shaykh : We will repeat the solution. Okay, first, the prayer is the Maghrib prayer. How is that? A man entered with the imam in the second rak'ah after the ruku', so he sat with the imam for the first tashahhud. Then the imam sat for the second tashahhud, and the imam had made a mistake where his prostration is after the taslim, and it includes a tashahhud according to some scholars. So the imam said the taslim and prostrated for forgetfulness, and sat for the tashahhud, and the ma'mum followed him. How many is this?
The student: Three.
The Shaykh : Three. Then the ma'mum stood up to make up what he missed, and sat in the first rak'ah, which is his first tashahhud, and that is the fourth. Then this ma'mum, the one who joined late, made a mistake where his prostration is after the taslim. So when he performed the final tashahhud and said the taslim, he prostrated for forgetfulness, and performed the tashahhud and said the taslim. So this is six tashahhuds. Yes.
