The Meaning of the Poet's Statement: "And It Is Correct to Derive from It the Creator... And Clarifying the Difference Between Creation and the Created
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The Shaykh :
"And it is correct to derive from it the Creator *** Just as the Speaker, the One who is Unique"
This means that the act of creation is connected to the created, and it is correct to derive from it the Creator, even though the act is attributed to another, because the created is separate from Allah. So he says: likewise, speech.
"He is the Doer of His Speech and His Book *** Speech is not an attribute of meanings for Him"
They claim that when one says "Speaker," it means the Creator of speech, just as when one says "Creator," the created is separate and distinct.
We answer them on this point by saying that creation is not the created. Creation is the act of the Creator, and the created is the object of the Creator's act. If you make something now, it is made, and your act is making. If you build a house, it is built, and your act is building. Therefore, creation is not the act of the Creator; creation means the created, which is separate and distinct from the Creator. Creation is an attribute that subsists in Him. However, since speech does not take an object, whereas creation does take an object—one says "He created such-and-such"—speech is an attribute that necessarily belongs to the Speaker and does not take an object. Thus, the object is not connected to it, although it is possible to say that the object can be connected to it. It is said: "Allah is a Speaker," and the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) is one who is spoken to, and the Messenger is one who is spoken to, as came in the hadith regarding Adam that he was a prophet who was spoken to. In that case, "one who is spoken to" is in the same pattern as "created" in terms of meaning. So we have the Speaker, which is Allah; speech, which is His act; and those who are spoken to, who are the created. There is no difference between creation and speech.
Have we finished? May Allah reward you, Abdul Rahman.
A prophet we obligate upon him.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Huh?
The student : If ...
The Shaykh : What is "And similar to this are two brothers, this one is a seer *** " ?
The student : The author ...
The Shaykh : The important thing now is that you have known the argument of the Jahmiyyah regarding speech when they said that it is created, yes, and you have known that it is a false argument, is that not so? Good, this is what I want.
The student : And contrary
The Shaykh : Yes.
The reader: In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
"And it is correct to derive from it the Creator *** Just as the Speaker, the One who is Unique"
This means that the act of creation is connected to the created, and it is correct to derive from it the Creator, even though the act is attributed to another, because the created is separate from Allah. So he says: likewise, speech.
"He is the Doer of His Speech and His Book *** Speech is not an attribute of meanings for Him"
They claim that when one says "Speaker," it means the Creator of speech, just as when one says "Creator," the created is separate and distinct.
We answer them on this point by saying that creation is not the created. Creation is the act of the Creator, and the created is the object of the Creator's act. If you make something now, it is made, and your act is making. If you build a house, it is built, and your act is building. Therefore, creation is not the act of the Creator; creation means the created, which is separate and distinct from the Creator. Creation is an attribute that subsists in Him. However, since speech does not take an object, whereas creation does take an object—one says "He created such-and-such"—speech is an attribute that necessarily belongs to the Speaker and does not take an object. Thus, the object is not connected to it, although it is possible to say that the object can be connected to it. It is said: "Allah is a Speaker," and the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) is one who is spoken to, and the Messenger is one who is spoken to, as came in the hadith regarding Adam that he was a prophet who was spoken to. In that case, "one who is spoken to" is in the same pattern as "created" in terms of meaning. So we have the Speaker, which is Allah; speech, which is His act; and those who are spoken to, who are the created. There is no difference between creation and speech.
Have we finished? May Allah reward you, Abdul Rahman.
A prophet we obligate upon him.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Huh?
The student : If ...
The Shaykh : What is "And similar to this are two brothers, this one is a seer *** " ?
The student : The author ...
The Shaykh : The important thing now is that you have known the argument of the Jahmiyyah regarding speech when they said that it is created, yes, and you have known that it is a false argument, is that not so? Good, this is what I want.
The student : And contrary
The Shaykh : Yes.
The reader: In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.