(Ibn al-Qayyim’s invitation to the people of innovation to a debate, or to reflect on the texts, or to refrain from attacking us) O our people, by Allah, rise up and look, and reflect on the secret
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The Shaykh :"O our people, by Allah, rise up and look, and reflect on the secret and the public
Look, and if you wish, debate"
(may Allah have mercy on him) says: Rise up and look, think about who is more deserving of the label of Khawarij, is it the Hashawi, as they claim, or are these people...? If you wish to look for yourselves, then look, and if you wish a debate and a confrontation, we are ready to debate and confront you. For this reason he said:
"Look, and if you wish, debate, so who is it ***"
Yes
"*** in pairs on this, or who is it alone
Which of the sects after this is closer to the word of the Messenger and the clear Qur'an?
So when this becomes clear, either follow, or excuse, or announce your attack"
He means that when it becomes clear, either you follow, and that is the good, or you excuse, and that is a peaceful stand-off, you excuse us and do not speak about us, or what? You announce your attack, meaning we speak and you speak. And the reality is that they neither followed nor excused, but rather they used to curse the people of affirmation and say they are Hashawiyyah, they are upstarts, they are dregs, and so on, they are the common people and they have no knowledge. And in that case, they have announced their attack, and when they announce their attack, do not blame us if we say about them what they deserve of ugly descriptions, yes.
The questioner : Why did he not...?
The Shaykh : Yes, it appears that it was due to the tightness of the meter.
The questioner : Shaykh?
The Shaykh : Yes, that is right.
Look, and if you wish, debate"
(may Allah have mercy on him) says: Rise up and look, think about who is more deserving of the label of Khawarij, is it the Hashawi, as they claim, or are these people...? If you wish to look for yourselves, then look, and if you wish a debate and a confrontation, we are ready to debate and confront you. For this reason he said:
"Look, and if you wish, debate, so who is it ***"
Yes
"*** in pairs on this, or who is it alone
Which of the sects after this is closer to the word of the Messenger and the clear Qur'an?
So when this becomes clear, either follow, or excuse, or announce your attack"
He means that when it becomes clear, either you follow, and that is the good, or you excuse, and that is a peaceful stand-off, you excuse us and do not speak about us, or what? You announce your attack, meaning we speak and you speak. And the reality is that they neither followed nor excused, but rather they used to curse the people of affirmation and say they are Hashawiyyah, they are upstarts, they are dregs, and so on, they are the common people and they have no knowledge. And in that case, they have announced their attack, and when they announce their attack, do not blame us if we say about them what they deserve of ugly descriptions, yes.
The questioner : Why did he not...?
The Shaykh : Yes, it appears that it was due to the tightness of the meter.
The questioner : Shaykh?
The Shaykh : Yes, that is right.