The Issue of the Extinction of the Fire
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The Shaykh : Do you not know that some of the Salaf said that the Fire will be extinguished, that it will be extinguished, even though this contradicts the clear text of the Qur'an? Allah the Exalted mentioned the permanence of the people of the Fire in three verses of His Book: in Surat al-Nisa, in Surat al-Ahzab, and in Surat al-Jinn. These are three clear verses that explicitly mention permanence. Who can bring me the verse from al-Nisa?
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : No, who can bring me the verse from al-Nisa? Yes?
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : No, that is not the meaning.
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : Oh my, this is in al-Nisa, this is not in al-Nisa. Yes?
The student: He, Glorified and Exalted is He, said:[An-Nisa 4:14].
The Shaykh : I want the permanence.
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : No, no,[An-Nisa 4:168] at the end of al-Nisa, [An-Nisa 4:168-169] it is explicit. In Surat al-Ahzab, where is the verse in Surat al-Ahzab?
You are all memorizers of the Prophet's Mosque, and praise be to Allah, there are many memorizers in it.
The student:[Al-Ahzab 33:64-65].
The Shaykh :[Al-Ahzab 33:64-65] in Surat al-Jinn, yes.
The student:[Al-Jinn 72:23].
The Shaykh : In Surat al-Jinn,[Al-Jinn 72:23] After this statement, this statement of Allah, Mighty and Majestic, "abiding therein forever," in three verses. If it had come in one verse, that would have been sufficient, so how much more so when it came in three verses from the Book of Allah? And yet, people did not say that those who contradicted this issue are disbelievers or misguided. Why? Because a person is human. We do not say that it did not reach them, because the verse is in the Qur'an, which everyone reads, but a person is human; understanding may be missed by him, just as knowledge may be missed by him.
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : No, who can bring me the verse from al-Nisa? Yes?
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : No, that is not the meaning.
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : Oh my, this is in al-Nisa, this is not in al-Nisa. Yes?
The student: He, Glorified and Exalted is He, said:
And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger and transgresses His limits - He will put him into the Fire to abide eternally therein, and he will have a humiliating punishment.
وَمَنْ يَعْصِ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ وَيَتَعَدَّ حُدُودَهُ يُدْخِلْهُ نَارًا خَالِدًا فِيهَا وَلَهُ عَذَابٌ مُهِينٌThe Shaykh : I want the permanence.
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : No, no,
Indeed, those who disbelieve and commit wrong
إن الذين كفروا وظلمواnever will Allah forgive them, nor will He guide them to a path. (169) Except the path of Hell; they will abide therein forever.
لم يكن ليغفر لهم ولا ليهديهم طريقا إلا طريق جهنم خالدين فيها أبداYou are all memorizers of the Prophet's Mosque, and praise be to Allah, there are many memorizers in it.
The student:
(64) Indeed, Allah has cursed the disbelievers and prepared for them a Blaze. (65) Abiding therein forever, they will not find a protector or a helper.
إن الله لعن الكافرين وأعد لهم سعيرا خالين فيها أبداThe Shaykh :
(64) Indeed, Allah has cursed the disbelievers and prepared for them a Blaze. (65) Abiding therein forever, they will not find a protector or a helper.
إن الله لعن الكافرين وأعد لهم سعيرا خالين فيها أبدا لا يجدون وليا ولا نصيراThe student:
And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger - then indeed, for him is the fire of Hell; they will abide therein forever.
ومن يعص الله ورسوله فإن له نار جهنم خالدين فيها أبداThe Shaykh : In Surat al-Jinn,