The Book of Mosques and Places of Prayer-06b
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The reader: Muhammad ibn Hatim narrated to us, saying: Muhammad ibn Bakr informed us, saying: Ibn Jurayj informed us. H.
The Shaykh :"H" means: the transition from one chain of narration to another, and it does not mean that H is a hadith, nor are they all hadiths.
The reader: He said: And Ishaq ibn Mansur narrated to me, and the wording is his, saying: Abd al-Razzaq informed us, saying: Ibn Jurayj informed us, saying: Amr ibn Dinar informed me that Abu Ma'bad, the freed slave of Ibn Abbas, informed him.
This context and this wording are the best of the wordings, because
The Shaykh : he said: "Raising the voice in dhikr," and this is general; raising the voice in dhikr includes the takbir and others.
When the people depart from the obligatory prayer during the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him). Ibn Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him and his father) said: "I would know when they had departed by that, when I heard it." This hadith suggests that Ibn Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him and his father) did not hear the taslim—meaning the taslim of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him)—as if he did not hear it due to his distance. However, the voices of the dhikr, where they extend from the first row to the last row, are distinct and clear, so the end of the prayer is known by that. Otherwise, it is well known that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) would raise his voice in the takbir and the taslim. And this is indicated by the story of his illness (may the prayers and peace of Allah be upon him), when he came to the side of Abu Bakr, so he would say the takbir and Abu Bakr would say the takbir with his takbir in order to convey it to the people. This is what indicates that it is prescribed for the imam to raise his voice in the takbir.
The Shaykh :"H" means: the transition from one chain of narration to another, and it does not mean that H is a hadith, nor are they all hadiths.
The reader: He said: And Ishaq ibn Mansur narrated to me, and the wording is his, saying: Abd al-Razzaq informed us, saying: Ibn Jurayj informed us, saying: Amr ibn Dinar informed me that Abu Ma'bad, the freed slave of Ibn Abbas, informed him
That Ibn Abbas informed him that raising the voice in dhikr when the people depart from the obligatory prayer was the practice during the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), and that he said: Ibn Abbas said: I would know when they had departed by that, when I heard it.
أن ابن عباس أخبره أن رفع الصوت بالذكر حين ينصرف الناس من المكتوبة كان على عهد النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم وأنه قال : قال ابن عباس : كنت أعلم إذا انصرفوا بذلك إذا سمعتهThis context and this wording are the best of the wordings, because
The Shaykh : he said: "Raising the voice in dhikr," and this is general; raising the voice in dhikr includes the takbir and others.
When the people depart from the obligatory prayer during the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him). Ibn Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him and his father) said: "I would know when they had departed by that, when I heard it." This hadith suggests that Ibn Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him and his father) did not hear the taslim—meaning the taslim of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him)—as if he did not hear it due to his distance. However, the voices of the dhikr, where they extend from the first row to the last row, are distinct and clear, so the end of the prayer is known by that. Otherwise, it is well known that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) would raise his voice in the takbir and the taslim. And this is indicated by the story of his illness (may the prayers and peace of Allah be upon him), when he came to the side of Abu Bakr, so he would say the takbir and Abu Bakr would say the takbir with his takbir in order to convey it to the people. This is what indicates that it is prescribed for the imam to raise his voice in the takbir.