Explanation of the author's statement: "And around the second century, the Greek and Roman books were translated into Arabic, so the matter increased in affliction and severity."
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The Shaykh :"And around the second century, the Greek and Roman books were translated into Arabic, so the matter increased in affliction and severity. Then around the third century, the doctrine of the Jahmiyyah spread due to Bishr ibn al-Ghuyath al-Marisi and his generation, whom the imams unanimously condemned, and most of them declared to be disbelievers or misguided". And Allah knows best.
... at the hands of al-Ma'mun, the al-Ma'mun whom the writers today praise his era greatly and call it the Golden Age, even though the Shaykh al-Islam says: "I do not think that Allah will forgive al-Ma'mun for the affliction he brought upon the Muslim community".
Yes, so this man, may Allah protect us from him, as you know, caused known harm to the imams of the people of the Sunnah and the community, and he was among the greatest of those who harmed Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal (may Allah have mercy on him), yes?
The student: There is someone before him...
The Shaykh : No, he met him; in the time of Ibn Abi Du'ad, he was the one in charge of this matter.
Also around the third century, this doctrine developed because of whom? Because of Bishr ibn al-Ghuyath al-Marisi. This man was a scholar of kalam, and he had philosophy, and he had persuasion, meaning a false argument, but he was eloquent.
The imams unanimously, as the Shaykh al-Islam says: "condemned them, and most of them declared them disbelievers or misguided", so people's stance toward them was between declaring them misguided and declaring them disbelievers.
And this diversity indicates that it is based on the state of the innovator: if he is a caller to his innovation, they declare him a disbeliever, and if he is a follower without knowledge, they declare him misguided.
"And Uthman ibn Sa'id al-Darimi (may Allah have mercy on him) composed a book refuting al-Marisi, which he titled: 'The Refutation of Uthman ibn Sa'id against the Stubborn Disbeliever in What He Fabricated Against Allah Regarding the Oneness of Allah'", and this book exists and is printed, and it is a good and beneficial book for the student of knowledge, and its style follows the previous styles of refutation, taking, and discussion.
"Whoever reads this book with knowledge and fairness will realize the weakness of the argument of these deniers of the divine attributes, indeed its invalidity. And that these figurative interpretations found in the speech of many of the later scholars, such as al-Razi, al-Ghazali, Ibn Aqil, and others, are exactly the interpretations of Bishr. As for the source of the doctrine of denial of the divine attributes, it was from the Jews and the polytheists, and the misguidance of the Sabians and the philosophers".
And what a bad source from the Jews and the polytheists, and the misguidance of the Sabians and the philosophers. What is the evidence for that?
He said: "For al-Ja'd ibn Dirham took his doctrine, it is said, from Aban ibn Saiman, from Talut, from Labid ibn al-A'sam the Jew who bewitched the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him)".
And this is the source of its derivation from whom? From the Jews. And this is a chain of destruction, may Allah protect us, not a chain of gold, for it is all evil, and it was, and it was.
... at the hands of al-Ma'mun, the al-Ma'mun whom the writers today praise his era greatly and call it the Golden Age, even though the Shaykh al-Islam says: "I do not think that Allah will forgive al-Ma'mun for the affliction he brought upon the Muslim community".
Yes, so this man, may Allah protect us from him, as you know, caused known harm to the imams of the people of the Sunnah and the community, and he was among the greatest of those who harmed Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal (may Allah have mercy on him), yes?
The student: There is someone before him...
The Shaykh : No, he met him; in the time of Ibn Abi Du'ad, he was the one in charge of this matter.
Also around the third century, this doctrine developed because of whom? Because of Bishr ibn al-Ghuyath al-Marisi. This man was a scholar of kalam, and he had philosophy, and he had persuasion, meaning a false argument, but he was eloquent.
The imams unanimously, as the Shaykh al-Islam says: "condemned them, and most of them declared them disbelievers or misguided", so people's stance toward them was between declaring them misguided and declaring them disbelievers.
And this diversity indicates that it is based on the state of the innovator: if he is a caller to his innovation, they declare him a disbeliever, and if he is a follower without knowledge, they declare him misguided.
"And Uthman ibn Sa'id al-Darimi (may Allah have mercy on him) composed a book refuting al-Marisi, which he titled: 'The Refutation of Uthman ibn Sa'id against the Stubborn Disbeliever in What He Fabricated Against Allah Regarding the Oneness of Allah'", and this book exists and is printed, and it is a good and beneficial book for the student of knowledge, and its style follows the previous styles of refutation, taking, and discussion.
"Whoever reads this book with knowledge and fairness will realize the weakness of the argument of these deniers of the divine attributes, indeed its invalidity. And that these figurative interpretations found in the speech of many of the later scholars, such as al-Razi, al-Ghazali, Ibn Aqil, and others, are exactly the interpretations of Bishr. As for the source of the doctrine of denial of the divine attributes, it was from the Jews and the polytheists, and the misguidance of the Sabians and the philosophers".
And what a bad source from the Jews and the polytheists, and the misguidance of the Sabians and the philosophers. What is the evidence for that?
He said: "For al-Ja'd ibn Dirham took his doctrine, it is said, from Aban ibn Saiman, from Talut, from Labid ibn al-A'sam the Jew who bewitched the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him)".
And this is the source of its derivation from whom? From the Jews. And this is a chain of destruction, may Allah protect us, not a chain of gold, for it is all evil, and it was, and it was.