The Shaykh al-Islam criticized those who faint upon hearing the Qur'an, and Allah says: ((The skins of those who fear their Lord shiver from it )) So how is that?
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The student: Allah the Exalted said ...
The Shaykh : He criticized them.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : There is a difference between the shivering of the skin and the one who faints; the one who faints loses consciousness.
The student: Fear is required.
The Shaykh : No, the required fear is that a person has knowledge of Allah, His greatness, and fear of Him. As for being unable to bear what comes to his heart until he faints and dies, or acts like a madman, that is also... there are people who are the opposite of that; their skins do not shiver, but you find him saying "Allah, Allah, Allah" while he is beating the ground. Is this correct or not? I say this action is good?
The student: No.
The Shaykh : Never. This is contrary to what the Salaf were upon. This is contrary to what the Salaf were upon. Therefore, among the Sufis there is a dhikr they call al-ghabirah. They call it al-ghabirah. They bring whips with them, then they sit in circles, and then the one who is remembering Allah speaks. When he shouts "La ilaha illa Allah" and "Subhan Allah," they beat the ground with the whips. The best of them is the one who raises the most dust, because it means he has emotion, strength, and intensity. They call this al-ghabirah. I think some of them say to others, "Did you do al-ghabirah today?" Yes.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : This is general. Yes.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Never. There is no room for it.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : It has a meaning.
Then their hearts soften
ثم تلين قلوبهمThe Shaykh : He criticized them.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : There is a difference between the shivering of the skin and the one who faints; the one who faints loses consciousness.
The student: Fear is required.
The Shaykh : No, the required fear is that a person has knowledge of Allah, His greatness, and fear of Him. As for being unable to bear what comes to his heart until he faints and dies, or acts like a madman, that is also... there are people who are the opposite of that; their skins do not shiver, but you find him saying "Allah, Allah, Allah" while he is beating the ground. Is this correct or not? I say this action is good?
The student: No.
The Shaykh : Never. This is contrary to what the Salaf were upon. This is contrary to what the Salaf were upon. Therefore, among the Sufis there is a dhikr they call al-ghabirah. They call it al-ghabirah. They bring whips with them, then they sit in circles, and then the one who is remembering Allah speaks. When he shouts "La ilaha illa Allah" and "Subhan Allah," they beat the ground with the whips. The best of them is the one who raises the most dust, because it means he has emotion, strength, and intensity. They call this al-ghabirah. I think some of them say to others, "Did you do al-ghabirah today?" Yes.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : This is general. Yes.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Never. There is no room for it.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : It has a meaning.