regarding the ruling on one who neglects prayer: does he have to make it up if the time has passed? And if the Sufis take in new Muslims and raise them with a superstitious upbringing, is their Islam valid?
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The questioner : Is he ordered to repeat it?
The Shaykh : He is not ordered to, if he is within the time, he is ordered to repeat it.
The questioner : If the time has passed, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : If the time has passed, he is not ordered to.
The questioner : And likewise, the one who abandons prayer is a disbeliever according to the correct opinion.
The Shaykh : This is if he prayed.
The questioner : But he prays in a manner that is not valid.
The Shaykh : He does not know that it is not valid.
The questioner : Shaykh ... the committee ... the question ... da'wah and conveying the message ... they call non-Muslims to Islam and they enter them into Islam, but in an incorrect manner.
The Shaykh : How?
The questioner : They enter them into some of the paths, for example, they enter a person into Islam, but Islam for them is an upbringing, so they enter them into places where they say, "You see Allah."
The Shaykh : You see Allah?!
The questioner : Yes, meaning after fourteen days or so, you see Allah, and when you see Allah, you become such and such. We have seen some of them die in this state; they do not give them sufficient food and drink.
The Shaykh : Does this layman know that there is a truth other than this?
The questioner : No, he does not know; he is new to Islam.
The Shaykh : He is not ordered to make up the prayer because he is deceived ...
The questioner : His Islam, may Allah bless you?
The Shaykh : His Islam is valid, his Islam is valid; he is treated as a Muslim because he is an ignorant poor soul. He saw these turbans and these sleeves and these miswak sticks, yes, did you understand? And this face that they leave ... sometimes he thinks this is Islam, but first they train him to see Allah?
The questioner : Yes, indeed.
The Shaykh : What Allah willed.
The questioner : The first time, they enter him into a place they call an upbringing, he stays ... days, then he comes out.
The Shaykh : Is the place spacious or narrow?
The questioner : No one gets access to it, a narrow place where no one speaks to him ... talismans ... he does not speak to anyone and they do not give him sufficient food and drink.
The Shaykh : ...
The questioner : It is there.
The Shaykh : Is it present in any place?
The questioner : It is present in Chad and in Africa, a lot.
The Shaykh : There is no power and no strength except with Allah.
The questioner : ... so when he comes ...
The Shaykh : May Allah guide them, may Allah guide them, it is a problem, yes, O Salim?
The Shaykh : He is not ordered to, if he is within the time, he is ordered to repeat it.
The questioner : If the time has passed, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : If the time has passed, he is not ordered to.
The questioner : And likewise, the one who abandons prayer is a disbeliever according to the correct opinion.
The Shaykh : This is if he prayed.
The questioner : But he prays in a manner that is not valid.
The Shaykh : He does not know that it is not valid.
The questioner : Shaykh ... the committee ... the question ... da'wah and conveying the message ... they call non-Muslims to Islam and they enter them into Islam, but in an incorrect manner.
The Shaykh : How?
The questioner : They enter them into some of the paths, for example, they enter a person into Islam, but Islam for them is an upbringing, so they enter them into places where they say, "You see Allah."
The Shaykh : You see Allah?!
The questioner : Yes, meaning after fourteen days or so, you see Allah, and when you see Allah, you become such and such. We have seen some of them die in this state; they do not give them sufficient food and drink.
The Shaykh : Does this layman know that there is a truth other than this?
The questioner : No, he does not know; he is new to Islam.
The Shaykh : He is not ordered to make up the prayer because he is deceived ...
The questioner : His Islam, may Allah bless you?
The Shaykh : His Islam is valid, his Islam is valid; he is treated as a Muslim because he is an ignorant poor soul. He saw these turbans and these sleeves and these miswak sticks, yes, did you understand? And this face that they leave ... sometimes he thinks this is Islam, but first they train him to see Allah?
The questioner : Yes, indeed.
The Shaykh : What Allah willed.
The questioner : The first time, they enter him into a place they call an upbringing, he stays ... days, then he comes out.
The Shaykh : Is the place spacious or narrow?
The questioner : No one gets access to it, a narrow place where no one speaks to him ... talismans ... he does not speak to anyone and they do not give him sufficient food and drink.
The Shaykh : ...
The questioner : It is there.
The Shaykh : Is it present in any place?
The questioner : It is present in Chad and in Africa, a lot.
The Shaykh : There is no power and no strength except with Allah.
The questioner : ... so when he comes ...
The Shaykh : May Allah guide them, may Allah guide them, it is a problem, yes, O Salim?