The seller who takes the fresh dates: what does he gain from this exchange between fresh dates and dried dates?
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The student: The one taking the fresh dates is known to be doing so for the need for fresh dates, but what about the one giving them?
The Shaykh : How is the one giving the fresh dates?
The student: The one who gave the fresh dates, the seller.
The Shaykh : The seller?
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : What does he gain? By Allah, I do not know, Ya Ali. Where are you wandering? Where are you? Are you with us?
The student: I am with you.
The Shaykh : Did we not say this man has workers?
The student: I do not mean this issue in its absolute sense!
The Shaykh : If he needs it, if he needs it!
The student: The owner of the fresh dates?!
The Shaykh : Yes, perhaps the owner of the fresh dates needs dried dates. Perhaps a person needs the dried dates to perfume them, to put honey or something else in them. You do not know; the apparent thing is the customs of people, yes.
The Shaykh : How is the one giving the fresh dates?
The student: The one who gave the fresh dates, the seller.
The Shaykh : The seller?
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : What does he gain? By Allah, I do not know, Ya Ali. Where are you wandering? Where are you? Are you with us?
The student: I am with you.
The Shaykh : Did we not say this man has workers?
The student: I do not mean this issue in its absolute sense!
The Shaykh : If he needs it, if he needs it!
The student: The owner of the fresh dates?!
The Shaykh : Yes, perhaps the owner of the fresh dates needs dried dates. Perhaps a person needs the dried dates to perfume them, to put honey or something else in them. You do not know; the apparent thing is the customs of people, yes.