Discussion regarding the author's statement: "And if he owns a nisab of young animals, the lunar year begins when he owns them..."
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The Shaykh : What is the meaning of the author's statement "And if he owns a nisab of young animals, the lunar year begins when he owns them"? Yes, Mansur?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : It means that if he buys small livestock for breeding, the lunar year begins from the time he owns them. Now, is a condition added to the author's statement?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Yes, if they are grazing animals. It may be said that this is known, as will come later, if Allah wills, in the zakah of livestock. A man has two hundred dirhams, which is the nisab of silver, and during the lunar year, in the tenth month, it decreased by ten dirhams. When the lunar year is completed, does he pay zakah on the one hundred and ninety, or not?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : No, no, the wealth has been lost.
The questioner : It is not obligatory.
The Shaykh : It is not obligatory?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Why?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : No, it reached the nisab for ten months, and the two hundred exist.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : It means, the lunar year has not passed over them, because the nisab decreased before the completion of the lunar year. Now, ten dirhams decreased before the completion of the lunar year by a month, and ten dirhams came to him from another source before the completion of the lunar year by ten days.
The questioner : Of the same type?
The Shaykh : That is, ten dirhams. Yes, so what do you say? Does he pay zakah when the lunar year is completed, or not?
The questioner : He starts a new lunar year.
The Shaykh : It means he starts a new lunar year. Now, we mentioned an issue that confused us in the topic, so who recalls it?
The questioner : ... five dirhams.
The Shaykh : Five dirhams were stolen from him before the completion of the lunar year, then they were returned before the completion of the lunar year.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Yes, no, they were returned before the completion, meaning the lunar year was completed on the nisab. They were stolen before the completion of the lunar year by a month, then returned before the completion of the lunar year by half a month. Do we say that he continues because his dirhams were returned to him, or do we say that he starts anew? What is the apparent meaning of the author's statement? That he starts anew. The apparent meaning of his statement is that he starts anew, because when they were stolen, the original state is that they do not return. Now, a man has forty sheep for breeding, for milk and offspring, and during the lunar year he sold them for forty sheep for trade. Does the lunar year break or not? Muhammad?
The questioner : The lunar year breaks because...
The Shaykh : Sheep, forty sheep for breeding, he sold them for forty sheep for merchandise.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : They all have bleats, ears, and rumps.
The questioner : These are trade goods, and these...
The Shaykh : ... .
The questioner : No, they are not of the same type.
The Shaykh : The type is the same, my brother, sheep, sheep for sheep.
The questioner : The type is one type, the species is one species.
The Shaykh : If the species is one, then the type is even more so, because the type is broader. Everything that agrees in species agrees in type.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : People do not call you, everyone says this is sheep and this is sheep, and if you wish, we can tell you that they are of the same color and the same age. Now, are you certain that the lunar year breaks?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Certain, yes?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : How?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : What do you say?
The questioner : Correct.
The Shaykh : Correct, because the place where zakah becomes obligatory in trade is not the item itself but the value of the item, so it is as if he exchanged these sheep for milk and offspring for dirhams. Clear? Now.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : It means that if he buys small livestock for breeding, the lunar year begins from the time he owns them. Now, is a condition added to the author's statement?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Yes, if they are grazing animals. It may be said that this is known, as will come later, if Allah wills, in the zakah of livestock. A man has two hundred dirhams, which is the nisab of silver, and during the lunar year, in the tenth month, it decreased by ten dirhams. When the lunar year is completed, does he pay zakah on the one hundred and ninety, or not?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : No, no, the wealth has been lost.
The questioner : It is not obligatory.
The Shaykh : It is not obligatory?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Why?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : No, it reached the nisab for ten months, and the two hundred exist.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : It means, the lunar year has not passed over them, because the nisab decreased before the completion of the lunar year. Now, ten dirhams decreased before the completion of the lunar year by a month, and ten dirhams came to him from another source before the completion of the lunar year by ten days.
The questioner : Of the same type?
The Shaykh : That is, ten dirhams. Yes, so what do you say? Does he pay zakah when the lunar year is completed, or not?
The questioner : He starts a new lunar year.
The Shaykh : It means he starts a new lunar year. Now, we mentioned an issue that confused us in the topic, so who recalls it?
The questioner : ... five dirhams.
The Shaykh : Five dirhams were stolen from him before the completion of the lunar year, then they were returned before the completion of the lunar year.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Yes, no, they were returned before the completion, meaning the lunar year was completed on the nisab. They were stolen before the completion of the lunar year by a month, then returned before the completion of the lunar year by half a month. Do we say that he continues because his dirhams were returned to him, or do we say that he starts anew? What is the apparent meaning of the author's statement? That he starts anew. The apparent meaning of his statement is that he starts anew, because when they were stolen, the original state is that they do not return. Now, a man has forty sheep for breeding, for milk and offspring, and during the lunar year he sold them for forty sheep for trade. Does the lunar year break or not? Muhammad?
The questioner : The lunar year breaks because...
The Shaykh : Sheep, forty sheep for breeding, he sold them for forty sheep for merchandise.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : They all have bleats, ears, and rumps.
The questioner : These are trade goods, and these...
The Shaykh : ... .
The questioner : No, they are not of the same type.
The Shaykh : The type is the same, my brother, sheep, sheep for sheep.
The questioner : The type is one type, the species is one species.
The Shaykh : If the species is one, then the type is even more so, because the type is broader. Everything that agrees in species agrees in type.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : People do not call you, everyone says this is sheep and this is sheep, and if you wish, we can tell you that they are of the same color and the same age. Now, are you certain that the lunar year breaks?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Certain, yes?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : How?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : What do you say?
The questioner : Correct.
The Shaykh : Correct, because the place where zakah becomes obligatory in trade is not the item itself but the value of the item, so it is as if he exchanged these sheep for milk and offspring for dirhams. Clear? Now.