If a man says to another, "I want to tell you news or teach you something on the condition that you lend me money," and the man agrees, is this considered a debt that yields a benefit?
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The questioner : ... the borrower.
The Shaykh : What is the difference?
The questioner : I am not saying that it applies to both parties? We do not know the difference, Shaykh, but...
The Shaykh : Nor...
The questioner : What is in my mind, Shaykh, is that it is the lender who should not impose a condition, but as for the borrower, I have never imagined, up to this moment, a form of condition imposed by the borrower.
The Shaykh: A strange question, all right,Al-Mustadrak lil-Hakim 15:4 how do you interpret it?
The questioner : No, in my opinion, this is clear, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : And that is...
The questioner : Well, Shaykh, can you give us an example of the first aspect, which is from the side of the borrower?
The Shaykh : No, I do not understand what is going on in your mind regarding the distinction between the lender and the borrower.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Is there an understanding between the two? If the two do not agree, the problem does not occur.
The questioner : If the two agree.
The Shaykh : If the two do not agree, the problem does not occur. That is, one agrees and one does not agree, what happens?
The questioner : They separate, of course.
The Shaykh : Yes, well, so it is a strange question.
The questioner : Shaykh, let me repeat what is in my mind. Shaykh, it is not a matter of whether they agreed or disagreed, no, it is about the form of the agreement itself. The clear form that we know, Shaykh, is: "My debt, Shaykh, I owe you on the condition that you do such and such for me." This is a clear form that is not permissible. The second form that came to me now is: I say to the Shaykh or to any person, "Look, I want to... let us say that I will teach you a specific matter or news, or guide you to such and such, but on the condition that you lend me money." This is the new thing that came to me, Shaykh, in this issue.
The Shaykh : Well, and what was the outcome?
The questioner : He agrees to...
The Shaykh : What is the difference in the outcome between the first form and the second?
The questioner : This is where the question lies, Shaykh. I do not know.
The Shaykh : The answer is the same, my brother. It has not changed.
The questioner : It is the same, yes.
The Shaykh : That is, you brought me an example like "May Allah curse the one who eats riba and the one who is fed it." If there is no one who eats riba, there is no one who is fed it.
The questioner: Correct.
The Shaykh : And if there is one who is fed it, there is one who eats it, so you cannot imagine one without the other.
The questioner : Yes, so this is a general rule: "Every loan that yields a benefit," regardless of whether it is from the first or the second party. May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : What is the difference?
The questioner : I am not saying that it applies to both parties? We do not know the difference, Shaykh, but...
The Shaykh : Nor...
The questioner : What is in my mind, Shaykh, is that it is the lender who should not impose a condition, but as for the borrower, I have never imagined, up to this moment, a form of condition imposed by the borrower.
The Shaykh: A strange question, all right,
May Allah curse the one who eats riba and the one who is fed it
لَعَنَ اللهُ آكلَ الربا ، وموكلَهThe questioner : No, in my opinion, this is clear, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : And that is...
The questioner : Well, Shaykh, can you give us an example of the first aspect, which is from the side of the borrower?
The Shaykh : No, I do not understand what is going on in your mind regarding the distinction between the lender and the borrower.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Is there an understanding between the two? If the two do not agree, the problem does not occur.
The questioner : If the two agree.
The Shaykh : If the two do not agree, the problem does not occur. That is, one agrees and one does not agree, what happens?
The questioner : They separate, of course.
The Shaykh : Yes, well, so it is a strange question.
The questioner : Shaykh, let me repeat what is in my mind. Shaykh, it is not a matter of whether they agreed or disagreed, no, it is about the form of the agreement itself. The clear form that we know, Shaykh, is: "My debt, Shaykh, I owe you on the condition that you do such and such for me." This is a clear form that is not permissible. The second form that came to me now is: I say to the Shaykh or to any person, "Look, I want to... let us say that I will teach you a specific matter or news, or guide you to such and such, but on the condition that you lend me money." This is the new thing that came to me, Shaykh, in this issue.
The Shaykh : Well, and what was the outcome?
The questioner : He agrees to...
The Shaykh : What is the difference in the outcome between the first form and the second?
The questioner : This is where the question lies, Shaykh. I do not know.
The Shaykh : The answer is the same, my brother. It has not changed.
The questioner : It is the same, yes.
The Shaykh : That is, you brought me an example like "May Allah curse the one who eats riba and the one who is fed it." If there is no one who eats riba, there is no one who is fed it.
The questioner: Correct.
The Shaykh : And if there is one who is fed it, there is one who eats it, so you cannot imagine one without the other.
The questioner : Yes, so this is a general rule: "Every loan that yields a benefit," regardless of whether it is from the first or the second party. May Allah reward you with good.
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