Continuation of the answer to the question (When the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said of Mu'awiyah that he is a poor wretch with no wealth, but in another hadith (When there comes to you one of whom you are pleased with his religion and his character) and he did not say you are pleased with his wealth, how do you reconcile between these two hadiths?)
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The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Me, O Shaykh?
The Shaykh : Yes, you.
The questioner : May Allah reward you, meaning in the issue of a second man marrying the woman... but an obstacle arose for him, such as...
The Shaykh : And what is our position in this?
The questioner : This, May Allah reward you, is connected, part of it to the other.
The Shaykh : This is regarding the prohibitions of marriage.
The questioner : No, this is in the last hadiths.
I say, May Allah reward you, he was afflicted with impotence and became an impotent man, for example, or by way of example, he was afflicted with the evil eye, as happens.
The Shaykh : What?
The questioner : He was afflicted with the evil eye, meaning.
The Shaykh : Yes, yes.
The questioner : So he was unable to approach the woman.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : So does this make her permissible, meaning is this alone sufficient for the first husband?
The Shaykh : Which first husband, from the first husband?
The questioner : This is a man who divorced his wife.
The Shaykh : He divorced his wife.
The questioner : So a second man married her, a marriage of desire, and it was not in his intention.
The Shaykh : Yes, he divorced her, how many times?
The questioner : Three.
The Shaykh : So this has preceded us.
The questioner : And what preceded, May Allah reward you?
The Shaykh : That he divorced her three times, it has not preceded, people?
The questioner : Except, except this issue, May Allah reward you, this issue, I said that if something happens to him, we stipulated that he must have intercourse, we stipulated in this that he must have intercourse.
The Shaykh : Yes, yes, that the second husband who married her after the first divorce must have intercourse with her.
The questioner : Yes, but I say, May Allah reward you, this is an external matter.
The Shaykh : It does not contradict; if he did not have intercourse due to a cause, a cause whether he was impotent or was afflicted with the evil eye as I said, or was afflicted with a sudden illness that prevented him from intercourse, then she is not permissible.
The questioner : She is not permissible?
The Shaykh : Absolutely.
The questioner : Okay, May Allah reward you, perhaps she is.
The Shaykh : She is the wife of Rafi', and what does she say to the MessengerSahih al-Bukhari 2639.
The questioner : But, May Allah reward you, for example... this, for example, is a woman who was afflicted with the evil eye that prevented her from marriage absolutely, meaning the man wanted her, so he afflicted her with the evil eye that prevented her absolutely; whenever she married a man, he was unable to approach her or have intercourse with her, so she remains, meaning, in this state?
The Shaykh : Meaning after the first husband?
The questioner : Yes, after the first husband.
The Shaykh : She remains, or... and she is content with him even if he did not have intercourse with her. Yes, O Abd al-Rahman?
The questioner : Shaykh, meaning the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said... that he is a poor wretch, meaning poor, and also Usamah ibn Zayd was poor.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : So how, O Shaykh, did he say that one was poor and criticized him for his poverty, while Usamah was not criticized for being poor.
The Shaykh : Who told you that he was poor?
The questioner : ... He was poor; he did not have wealth.
The Shaykh : No.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : We are asking you for the evidence.
The questioner : Shaykh, he was poor.
The Shaykh : We are asking you for the evidence.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : Yes ...
The questioner : ... We are required to ...
The Shaykh : It would not be with a sound chain, otherwise your point would be valid, and for this reason she did not say, O Messenger of Allah, and Usamah is poor, yes?
The questioner : When Fatimah said it, the Messenger said that Mu'awiyah is a poor wretch, okay, in the other hadithSunan Ibn Majah 1967Da'if (Darussalam) he did not say: one of whom you are pleased with his wealth, how do you reconcile between them?
The Shaykh : This is correct, this is a valid point, but what you are saying, if three did not propose to her, then if three proposed to her, at that time we say this one is poor and that one is rich, but if the suitor is one and he is one of those whose religion and character you are pleased with, we say marry her, so here the issue involves a choice between three suitors, yes?
The questioner : Shaykh and he arranged a punishment for this to the end of the hadith, okay, if a person came to my tribe and said... and did not marry him...
The Shaykh : It is feared, and it is feared that if people follow one another in that, meaning not if it happens from one individual, that there will be great or major fitnah and corruption if they follow one another in that, but one person, perhaps no fitnah occurs, but if they follow one another in that and do not marry him, and he goes to others and they do not marry him, and to a third and a fourth and a tenth, fitnah and corruption occur.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : It is not, in any case.
The questioner : The children, some people...
The Shaykh : This is what we want to demolish, and indeed, some tribes, if a man marries, even if not from his paternal uncles, but if he is from the tribe, they say it is not possible, you must divorce, otherwise the gun is on your head, truly, some of them are corrupt, we must abolish this.
The questioner : How do we reconcile between the hadith that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) forbade a man to propose to a woman on whom his brother has already proposed, and here three proposals gathered?
The Shaykh : These people did not know about each other, some of them did not know about the others.
The questioner : Me, O Shaykh?
The Shaykh : Yes, you.
The questioner : May Allah reward you, meaning in the issue of a second man marrying the woman... but an obstacle arose for him, such as...
The Shaykh : And what is our position in this?
The questioner : This, May Allah reward you, is connected, part of it to the other.
The Shaykh : This is regarding the prohibitions of marriage.
The questioner : No, this is in the last hadiths.
I say, May Allah reward you, he was afflicted with impotence and became an impotent man, for example, or by way of example, he was afflicted with the evil eye, as happens.
The Shaykh : What?
The questioner : He was afflicted with the evil eye, meaning.
The Shaykh : Yes, yes.
The questioner : So he was unable to approach the woman.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : So does this make her permissible, meaning is this alone sufficient for the first husband?
The Shaykh : Which first husband, from the first husband?
The questioner : This is a man who divorced his wife.
The Shaykh : He divorced his wife.
The questioner : So a second man married her, a marriage of desire, and it was not in his intention.
The Shaykh : Yes, he divorced her, how many times?
The questioner : Three.
The Shaykh : So this has preceded us.
The questioner : And what preceded, May Allah reward you?
The Shaykh : That he divorced her three times, it has not preceded, people?
The questioner : Except, except this issue, May Allah reward you, this issue, I said that if something happens to him, we stipulated that he must have intercourse, we stipulated in this that he must have intercourse.
The Shaykh : Yes, yes, that the second husband who married her after the first divorce must have intercourse with her.
The questioner : Yes, but I say, May Allah reward you, this is an external matter.
The Shaykh : It does not contradict; if he did not have intercourse due to a cause, a cause whether he was impotent or was afflicted with the evil eye as I said, or was afflicted with a sudden illness that prevented him from intercourse, then she is not permissible.
The questioner : She is not permissible?
The Shaykh : Absolutely.
The questioner : Okay, May Allah reward you, perhaps she is.
The Shaykh : She is the wife of Rafi', and what does she say to the Messenger
but he is impotent
إنما معه مثل هدبة الثوبThe questioner : But, May Allah reward you, for example... this, for example, is a woman who was afflicted with the evil eye that prevented her from marriage absolutely, meaning the man wanted her, so he afflicted her with the evil eye that prevented her absolutely; whenever she married a man, he was unable to approach her or have intercourse with her, so she remains, meaning, in this state?
The Shaykh : Meaning after the first husband?
The questioner : Yes, after the first husband.
The Shaykh : She remains, or... and she is content with him even if he did not have intercourse with her. Yes, O Abd al-Rahman?
The questioner : Shaykh, meaning the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said... that he is a poor wretch, meaning poor, and also Usamah ibn Zayd was poor.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : So how, O Shaykh, did he say that one was poor and criticized him for his poverty, while Usamah was not criticized for being poor.
The Shaykh : Who told you that he was poor?
The questioner : ... He was poor; he did not have wealth.
The Shaykh : No.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : We are asking you for the evidence.
The questioner : Shaykh, he was poor.
The Shaykh : We are asking you for the evidence.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : Yes ...
The questioner : ... We are required to ...
The Shaykh : It would not be with a sound chain, otherwise your point would be valid, and for this reason she did not say, O Messenger of Allah, and Usamah is poor, yes?
The questioner : When Fatimah said it, the Messenger said that Mu'awiyah is a poor wretch, okay, in the other hadith
If there comes to you one with whose character and religious commitment you are pleased
إذا أتاكم من ترضون دينه وخلقهThe Shaykh : This is correct, this is a valid point, but what you are saying, if three did not propose to her, then if three proposed to her, at that time we say this one is poor and that one is rich, but if the suitor is one and he is one of those whose religion and character you are pleased with, we say marry her, so here the issue involves a choice between three suitors, yes?
The questioner : Shaykh
When there comes to you one of whom you are pleased with his religion and his character, marry her
إذا أتاكم من ترضون دينه وخلقه فزوجهوهUnless you do so
إلا تفعلواThe Shaykh : It is feared, and it is feared that if people follow one another in that, meaning not if it happens from one individual, that there will be great or major fitnah and corruption if they follow one another in that, but one person, perhaps no fitnah occurs, but if they follow one another in that and do not marry him, and he goes to others and they do not marry him, and to a third and a fourth and a tenth, fitnah and corruption occur.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : It is not, in any case.
The questioner : The children, some people...
The Shaykh : This is what we want to demolish, and indeed, some tribes, if a man marries, even if not from his paternal uncles, but if he is from the tribe, they say it is not possible, you must divorce, otherwise the gun is on your head, truly, some of them are corrupt, we must abolish this.
The questioner : How do we reconcile between the hadith that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) forbade a man to propose to a woman on whom his brother has already proposed, and here three proposals gathered?
The Shaykh : These people did not know about each other, some of them did not know about the others.