Is it permissible to attend an event for Amnesty International? A response to the doubt known as isolationism
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The questioner: This, our Shaykh, is an international foreign organization. This is a gathering for the Jordanian child, inviting one or two children from every school.
The student: From every school, and from every governorate.
The questioner: From every governorate, their school nominated him. The principle is that a person attends such conferences and takes risks, or does he not attend?
The Shaykh: He does not attend.
The student: Why does he not take risks? That is the point.
The Shaykh: He does not attend.
The questioner: Why?
The Shaykh: Okay, what do you think about him nominating himself to be a deputy, and perhaps a female deputy? Do you understand me? What do you think about him nominating himself to be a deputy in parliament and becoming a minister?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: And this is of that type.
The questioner: But... why do we isolate ourselves?
The Shaykh: Who told you to isolate yourself?
The questioner: I want to ask...
The Shaykh: Now, if you do not attend a society where you cannot do anything, and you attend a society where you can do something, indeed many things, have you isolated yourself?
The questioner: But I saw...
The Shaykh: Yes, but you did not give me an answer. This is how you are losing me.
The questioner: If I confront the fitnah (trial), I do more.
The Shaykh: You did not answer me. Why are you like this? I am saying: if you do not attend a society where you know you cannot reform it and benefit from it, and you attend another society where you know you will benefit and be benefited, have you isolated yourself according to your own expression? The answer is yes or no.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh: There is no answer.
The questioner: No, I forgot...
The student: The requirement... that is it, isolationism.
Another student : I yesterday...
The Shaykh: Go ahead.
The student: Yesterday I was in a gathering where I was guaranteeing... I speak, I say that I, meaning, the magazine and media outlets say that I, meaning, I have boycotted these media, no new news, or... television. So one of the people sitting there says, "But this creates a type of isolation and withdrawal from people for you." I said to him, "Where am I now?" Ah, I said, "How many of you are there?" Praise be to Allah, and I am among you. There is nothing separating me, isolating me, or anything, nor am I withdrawn from people. I answered like that.
The questioner: But the problem is that what you considered to be finished, perhaps this is finished, unless you are sure that it is finished.
The Shaykh: As for attributing to me that I considered it finished, this might be like your opinion, or it might not represent it. But if it represents my opinion, then no.
The questioner: I mean, for example...
The Shaykh: I mean, this needs interpretation.
The questioner: How.
The Shaykh: If you do not take risks, it needs interpretation.
The questioner: No, no, it is not interpretation.
The Shaykh: If so, what is it?
The questioner : But.
The Shaykh: ... talk of the night, meaning around the day. You attributed to me words I did not say.
The questioner: I am sorry.
The Shaykh: Sorry, yes, but the problem is, the important thing is you attributed to me something. But does it represent you that this society is finished?
The questioner: How.
The Shaykh: This society is finished.
The questioner: No.
The Shaykh: Is this your opinion of it?
The questioner: No.
The Shaykh: Then we are equal, ha. No, I did not judge that the society is finished, or if it is finished, what did we do...
The student: The Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) said:.
Another student : He said Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him)...
The Shaykh : ... .
The student: And the apparent nature of these matters is that you need to raise issues, and many of their issues are argued with distant perspectives away from Islam, as if he wants to say, "Through these meetings, I want to say the ruling of Islam on the matters that occur." If this is the purpose.
The Shaykh: Yes, if this is the purpose, we say, "Stretch your legs according to the size of your blanket."
The student: So this is the correct thing. Did you understand what he intended? I am done with Abu Malik; I spoke on his behalf. The answer is, "Stretch your legs according to the size of your blanket."
The questioner: I mean, one person can be a second element...
The Shaykh: Before he is able to handle the work, or after?
The questioner: Based on what...
The Shaykh: Answer me.
The questioner: Based on the issue.
The Shaykh: "Stretch your legs according to the size of your blanket" is not enough, I told you that. Before he is able to handle it, or after?
The questioner : ... .
The student: ... you want to drive a car. Do you want to drive before you learn? Do you want to study, hypothetically, do you want to work?
Another student : What do you want to do in a conference sponsored by an international organization, Amnesty International, which is under the patronage, of course, of the new world order... disbelief. What is the amnesty you will speak about and discuss? And this is what Amnesty International does is the mother of creation and the head of creation. And are you going to speak about that?
The questioner: Just as they slaughter in their bodies, what is slaughtered becomes...
The student: No problem, what do you say, for example, in this conference? You went to say something, so what did you say? Do you say and clarify? Can you clarify the truth?
The Shaykh: He said, what did he do? They made him president and assistant, or what?
The student: He nominated himself.
The Shaykh: He nominated himself...
The student: And they appointed you the press spokesperson for the office.
The Shaykh: He did nothing.
The questioner: No, but I, for example... after we withdrew, I was guaranteeing that... more.
The student: Muhammad, they appointed you the press spokesperson for this gathering. Do you want to see the decisions they made?
The questioner: Yes.
The student: Here, your role is to speak...
The questioner: No...
The student: You speak the ruling of the Shari'ah, originally.
The questioner: No, what did you do now? Every time someone comes...
The student: Ah, but what the Shaykh said is that you are a reed, you want a reed in this conference, a reed, and you can present the ruling of Islam in the issues raised, then yes, if your blanket is prepared. But if your blanket is short and your legs are outside, meaning...
The questioner: No, I mean, I won most of the votes of the youth who were present, meaning because Islam is present... even they were annoyed by this situation, meaning, but they were satisfied, otherwise if I had not said something, no one would have said anything. The listeners, the insurance, one hundred percent of the Muslims who were present there, because we pleased them greatly, they would have exploded with their words.
The Shaykh: The important thing, Muhammad, is to strengthen yourself. Your religion and your faith in your Lord and your following of the rulings of your Shari'ah matter. Then, our Lord (Mighty and Majestic) will strengthen you to handle some of the matters that are within your ability and capacity. But you are now premature. You are undergoing labors that are much bigger than you, and it is said that they will sweep you into what you do not want. Therefore, "You hope for salvation but do not follow its paths *** For the ship does not run on the land." Preparation is necessary.
The questioner: But this is one of the basics of the subject. I have to continue...
The Shaykh: Yes, but you forgot it and left it, and you are handling...
The questioner: Ah, why does it need courage? The subject, so that I prove to you that I am intentional, I have a field...
The student: ... let us take something practical. I mean, what happened... what is the amnesty? Amnesty for what?
The questioner: The human being achieved.
The student: What are human rights?
The questioner: We said, we confirmed that there is nothing called human rights...
The Shaykh: So, you must know yourself correctly.
The student: ... meaning, regarding the haram (forbidden) for a human being to commit the haram, so if the human being.
Another student : No, this is what they want, human rights, that one does the haram, or is it the right of the human being to do what Allah legislated? No.
The questioner: But, for example, there is a journalist... first, what do I say? I say to the journalists, they want me... not as a journalist, but as a participant.
The student: What is the benefit?
The questioner: No, so I express my clear opinion. One does not hold me accountable. In another matter, there is a journalist I discussed with, and he went to the Secretary General of Amnesty International. He went and said to him, "You must defend me for everything you did to Ahmad Yassin. He is your Shaykh, he was tortured, and now he is imprisoned, and no one speaks. Take a lesson from his words." But he said, "This is what we want, we do not remain silent."
The student: In any case, I want to state my opinion on the issue of Muhammad's matter.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The student: Muhammad, without a doubt, he wanted to undertake an experiment. This experiment may succeed and may fail. And the meaning of failure is not that he does not repeat an experiment in another field. Perhaps because he is proving with this experiment, if he succeeded in it, he continues in his success or continues in this path with his perspective. And if it is established that he was not able to achieve anything, then he moves to the field where he can achieve something. So, I see that without a doubt he undertook an experiment, and I think he was like Anwar to me... and I said to him, "This is a good thing for a person to do, but he may not be able to do it if he continues to be exposed to it. Therefore, the person must be completely cautious, and the experiment is for the person to learn his mistake in it. He learns the correct thing. And if he wants to hit the mark in every matter, it means he did not know the mistake. This is my opinion, I mean."
The student: From every school, and from every governorate.
The questioner: From every governorate, their school nominated him. The principle is that a person attends such conferences and takes risks, or does he not attend?
The Shaykh: He does not attend.
The student: Why does he not take risks? That is the point.
The Shaykh: He does not attend.
The questioner: Why?
The Shaykh: Okay, what do you think about him nominating himself to be a deputy, and perhaps a female deputy? Do you understand me? What do you think about him nominating himself to be a deputy in parliament and becoming a minister?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: And this is of that type.
The questioner: But... why do we isolate ourselves?
The Shaykh: Who told you to isolate yourself?
The questioner: I want to ask...
The Shaykh: Now, if you do not attend a society where you cannot do anything, and you attend a society where you can do something, indeed many things, have you isolated yourself?
The questioner: But I saw...
The Shaykh: Yes, but you did not give me an answer. This is how you are losing me.
The questioner: If I confront the fitnah (trial), I do more.
The Shaykh: You did not answer me. Why are you like this? I am saying: if you do not attend a society where you know you cannot reform it and benefit from it, and you attend another society where you know you will benefit and be benefited, have you isolated yourself according to your own expression? The answer is yes or no.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh: There is no answer.
The questioner: No, I forgot...
The student: The requirement... that is it, isolationism.
Another student : I yesterday...
The Shaykh: Go ahead.
The student: Yesterday I was in a gathering where I was guaranteeing... I speak, I say that I, meaning, the magazine and media outlets say that I, meaning, I have boycotted these media, no new news, or... television. So one of the people sitting there says, "But this creates a type of isolation and withdrawal from people for you." I said to him, "Where am I now?" Ah, I said, "How many of you are there?" Praise be to Allah, and I am among you. There is nothing separating me, isolating me, or anything, nor am I withdrawn from people. I answered like that.
The questioner: But the problem is that what you considered to be finished, perhaps this is finished, unless you are sure that it is finished.
The Shaykh: As for attributing to me that I considered it finished, this might be like your opinion, or it might not represent it. But if it represents my opinion, then no.
The questioner: I mean, for example...
The Shaykh: I mean, this needs interpretation.
The questioner: How.
The Shaykh: If you do not take risks, it needs interpretation.
The questioner: No, no, it is not interpretation.
The Shaykh: If so, what is it?
The questioner : But.
The Shaykh: ... talk of the night, meaning around the day. You attributed to me words I did not say.
The questioner: I am sorry.
The Shaykh: Sorry, yes, but the problem is, the important thing is you attributed to me something. But does it represent you that this society is finished?
The questioner: How.
The Shaykh: This society is finished.
The questioner: No.
The Shaykh: Is this your opinion of it?
The questioner: No.
The Shaykh: Then we are equal, ha. No, I did not judge that the society is finished, or if it is finished, what did we do...
The student: The Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) said:
Whoever says, "The people are ruined," is the most ruined of them.
مَن قال : هلك الناس ؛ فهو أهلكمAnother student : He said Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him)
Whoever mixes with people and endures their harm.
مَن خالط الناس وصبر على أذاهمThe Shaykh : ... .
The student: And the apparent nature of these matters is that you need to raise issues, and many of their issues are argued with distant perspectives away from Islam, as if he wants to say, "Through these meetings, I want to say the ruling of Islam on the matters that occur." If this is the purpose.
The Shaykh: Yes, if this is the purpose, we say, "Stretch your legs according to the size of your blanket."
The student: So this is the correct thing. Did you understand what he intended? I am done with Abu Malik; I spoke on his behalf. The answer is, "Stretch your legs according to the size of your blanket."
The questioner: I mean, one person can be a second element...
The Shaykh: Before he is able to handle the work, or after?
The questioner: Based on what...
The Shaykh: Answer me.
The questioner: Based on the issue.
The Shaykh: "Stretch your legs according to the size of your blanket" is not enough, I told you that. Before he is able to handle it, or after?
The questioner : ... .
The student: ... you want to drive a car. Do you want to drive before you learn? Do you want to study, hypothetically, do you want to work?
Another student : What do you want to do in a conference sponsored by an international organization, Amnesty International, which is under the patronage, of course, of the new world order... disbelief. What is the amnesty you will speak about and discuss? And this is what Amnesty International does is the mother of creation and the head of creation. And are you going to speak about that?
The questioner: Just as they slaughter in their bodies, what is slaughtered becomes...
The student: No problem, what do you say, for example, in this conference? You went to say something, so what did you say? Do you say and clarify? Can you clarify the truth?
The Shaykh: He said, what did he do? They made him president and assistant, or what?
The student: He nominated himself.
The Shaykh: He nominated himself...
The student: And they appointed you the press spokesperson for the office.
The Shaykh: He did nothing.
The questioner: No, but I, for example... after we withdrew, I was guaranteeing that... more.
The student: Muhammad, they appointed you the press spokesperson for this gathering. Do you want to see the decisions they made?
The questioner: Yes.
The student: Here, your role is to speak...
The questioner: No...
The student: You speak the ruling of the Shari'ah, originally.
The questioner: No, what did you do now? Every time someone comes...
The student: Ah, but what the Shaykh said is that you are a reed, you want a reed in this conference, a reed, and you can present the ruling of Islam in the issues raised, then yes, if your blanket is prepared. But if your blanket is short and your legs are outside, meaning...
The questioner: No, I mean, I won most of the votes of the youth who were present, meaning because Islam is present... even they were annoyed by this situation, meaning, but they were satisfied, otherwise if I had not said something, no one would have said anything. The listeners, the insurance, one hundred percent of the Muslims who were present there, because we pleased them greatly, they would have exploded with their words.
The Shaykh: The important thing, Muhammad, is to strengthen yourself. Your religion and your faith in your Lord and your following of the rulings of your Shari'ah matter. Then, our Lord (Mighty and Majestic) will strengthen you to handle some of the matters that are within your ability and capacity. But you are now premature. You are undergoing labors that are much bigger than you, and it is said that they will sweep you into what you do not want. Therefore, "You hope for salvation but do not follow its paths *** For the ship does not run on the land." Preparation is necessary.
The questioner: But this is one of the basics of the subject. I have to continue...
The Shaykh: Yes, but you forgot it and left it, and you are handling...
The questioner: Ah, why does it need courage? The subject, so that I prove to you that I am intentional, I have a field...
The student: ... let us take something practical. I mean, what happened... what is the amnesty? Amnesty for what?
The questioner: The human being achieved.
The student: What are human rights?
The questioner: We said, we confirmed that there is nothing called human rights...
The Shaykh: So, you must know yourself correctly.
The student: ... meaning, regarding the haram (forbidden) for a human being to commit the haram, so if the human being.
Another student : No, this is what they want, human rights, that one does the haram, or is it the right of the human being to do what Allah legislated? No.
The questioner: But, for example, there is a journalist... first, what do I say? I say to the journalists, they want me... not as a journalist, but as a participant.
The student: What is the benefit?
The questioner: No, so I express my clear opinion. One does not hold me accountable. In another matter, there is a journalist I discussed with, and he went to the Secretary General of Amnesty International. He went and said to him, "You must defend me for everything you did to Ahmad Yassin. He is your Shaykh, he was tortured, and now he is imprisoned, and no one speaks. Take a lesson from his words." But he said, "This is what we want, we do not remain silent."
The student: In any case, I want to state my opinion on the issue of Muhammad's matter.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The student: Muhammad, without a doubt, he wanted to undertake an experiment. This experiment may succeed and may fail. And the meaning of failure is not that he does not repeat an experiment in another field. Perhaps because he is proving with this experiment, if he succeeded in it, he continues in his success or continues in this path with his perspective. And if it is established that he was not able to achieve anything, then he moves to the field where he can achieve something. So, I see that without a doubt he undertook an experiment, and I think he was like Anwar to me... and I said to him, "This is a good thing for a person to do, but he may not be able to do it if he continues to be exposed to it. Therefore, the person must be completely cautious, and the experiment is for the person to learn his mistake in it. He learns the correct thing. And if he wants to hit the mark in every matter, it means he did not know the mistake. This is my opinion, I mean."
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