You cited in your valuable book: *Tarawih Prayer*

The questioner : The eighth question: You cited in your valuable book: *Tarawih Prayer*, that the two extra rak'ahs beyond the eleven rak'ahs are the sunnah of 'Isha, based on what Ibn Nasr narrated from Jabir, who said: , Is it not an objection to this that they were traveling, and the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) does not pray the rawatib of 'Isha while traveling? How can we say that these two extra rak'ahs are the sunnah of 'Isha? This is a good question.

The Shaykh : This is a valid point.

The questioner : Yes.

The Shaykh : Repeat the chain of narration for me!

The questioner : It says: You cited in your valuable book, *Tarawih Prayer*, that the two extra rak'ahs beyond the eleven rak'ahs are the sunnah of 'Isha, based on what Ibn Nasr narrated from Jabir, who said: "We set out with the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) from al-Hudaybiyyah, and when we reached al-Suqya—a village between Makkah and al-Madinah—the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) stood up, and Jabir was beside him, and he prayed al-'Atamah, then he prayed thirteen prostrations." Is it not an objection to this that they were traveling, and the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) does not pray the rawatib of 'Isha while traveling? How can we say that these two extra rak'ahs are the sunnah of 'Isha?

The Shaykh : This appears to be one of the Shaykh's oversights.

The questioner : Which Shaykh?

The Shaykh : The Shaykh present here, hehehe.

The questioner : The teacher.

Another questioner : It is not one of his oversights; this is due to the soundness of your mind and the precision of your understanding.

The Shaykh : May Allah preserve you. As long as the hadith is about travel, this interpretation does not hold.

The questioner : No, I say, may Allah bless you. I say that, meaning, that what happened—please, please—when we say that al-Suqya is first a village between Makkah and al-Madinah, it does not mean that it is located at a point closer to Makkah and farther from al-Madinah. This does not mean, let me finish, may Allah bless you.

The Shaykh: All right, go ahead.

The questioner : So I say, when we say this, this in-betweenness does not mean its proximity to Makkah; that is one point. As for the second point, if that is the case, then the Prophet's (peace and blessings be upon him) departure with his companions may have been for an incidental matter that is not called travel at that time, because the distance is close to al-Madinah. But 'Isha overtook them, just as 'Isha or Maghrib or any prayer overtakes people when they are far from al-Madinah, and they had gone out for recreation and to return to al-Madinah, and they were not traveling or preparing to travel. So this can be said.

The Shaykh : This cannot be said.

The questioner : No, this can be said.

Another questioner : "We set out from al-Hudaybiyyah," the text says.

The questioner: Huh?

Another questioner : "We set out from al-Hudaybiyyah."

The questioner : Here, I thought the...

Another questioner : "We set out from al-Hudaybiyyah."

The Shaykh : Rest, you, Shaykh. This is one of the Shaykh's oversights.

The questioner : I thought, may Allah bless you. In any case, our Shaykh, regarding something else.

Another questioner : Regarding something else. I actually thought it was not al-Hudaybiyyah, I thought it was Dhul-Hulayfah. That is what I was leaning toward. Well, in any case, but there are also other proofs that these two rak'ahs can be attributed to 'Isha.

The Shaykh : How?

The questioner : Are there no texts other than this one, I mean?

The Shaykh : No, the research is on this text.

The questioner : Ibn al-Qayyim, our Shaykh.

The Shaykh : Professor, if I am saying that this is one of the Shaykh's oversights, it does not mean we have no answer other than this hadith.

The questioner : Well done.

The Shaykh : But for this hadith, we have no answer.

The questioner : May Allah reward you with good.

The Shaykh : Rather, this is one of the Shaykh's oversights, not an oversight of the Shaykh, but one of the Shaykh's oversights.

The questioner : This is truly of the scholarly character we have come to know in you.

The Shaykh : May Allah preserve you.

The questioner : May Allah reward you with good. The ninth question.

The Shaykh : Well, Professor, time is short, that is enough.

The questioner : One question, our Shaykh, and peace be upon you afterwards.

Another questioner : I ask the Shaykh.

The questioner : Hmm...

Another questioner : There is doubt in the transmission, meaning the transmitter.

The Shaykh : Ah, here, yes.

The questioner : I have a pause regarding the transmission, our Shaykh, that our Shaykh cited this hadith only for the issue, and in my mind it is not like that.

The Shaykh : That is it, I understand.

The questioner : Yes, so we need to review the text.

The Shaykh : No problem.

The questioner : This is what I am defending.

Another questioner : But if that is the case, then the matter is as our Shaykh said.

The Shaykh : It is this.

The questioner: Yes.

The Shaykh : But there should be an effort to clear the Shaykh of his oversight, I mean.

The questioner : Allahu Akbar! May Allah reward you with good, our Shaykh. We have only learned from you fairness, if Allah wills.

The Shaykh : May Allah bless you.

The questioner : ...a trap for the Shaykh.

Another questioner : No, it is not a trap.

The questioner : Hmm, unfortunately, I mean, be quiet, Ali. No, no, no, the question is forbidden, forbidden.