Explanation of the words of Ibn Malik (may Allah have mercy on him): "And the return of a genitive marker in the case of conjunction to *** a pronoun of obligatory genitive has been made."
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The Shaykh : Then the author said:
"And the return of a genitive marker in the case of conjunction to *** a pronoun of obligatory genitive has been made
And it is not obligatory in my view, for it has come *** in correct poetry and prose, established".
The student: The reverse, prose and poetry.
The Shaykh : In my view, in poetry and prose, "in poetry and prose", correct.
The student: The copy with us is in poetry and prose.
Another student: It is all the same.
The Shaykh : No, it is not all the same.
The student: The first explanations: in poetry and prose.
The Shaykh :"in correct poetry and prose", poetry may come due to necessity, but correct prose in which there is no necessity or anything that brought it about, okay.
The student: Shall we correct it?
The Shaykh : Yes, correct it.
"And the return of a genitive marker in the case of conjunction to *** a pronoun of obligatory genitive has been made":
"Return" is the subject, its predicate is the sentence: "has been made," and "obligatory" is the second object of "made," placed before it, and the agent in "was made" is hidden, it is the first object, yes, meaning its meaning is that the return of the genitive marker, genitive marker: includes when the genitive marker is a particle or when the genitive marker is a noun, yes, for it is obligatory to return it when conjoined to a pronoun, it is obligatory to return the genitive marker when we conjoin to a pronoun, okay, the author did not say here: attached, because the genitive pronoun cannot be anything but attached, this is the reason, the genitive pronoun is not anything but attached, -put it down, brothers-.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : Now, in the first two verses, he is speaking about conjunction to the nominative pronoun, or not?
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : And he informed us that if it is attached, separation between the conjunction particle and the pronoun is obligatory, and if it is detached? The nominative pronoun!!
The student: Permissible, permissible.
The Shaykh : If it is detached, separation is not obligatory, is that so?
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : Now he moves to the genitive pronoun, and the genitive pronoun cannot be anything but attached, he says: if you conjoin to a genitive pronoun, it is obligatory for you to return the preposition, whether it is a noun or a particle, and here he said: "and the return of a genitive marker".
And he followed Ibn Jurum, yes, because Ibn Jurum is the one who says genitive instead of genitive case, he did not say: and the return of a preposition, but for necessity, there is no harm in borrowing, you borrow from Ibn Jurum this time, and it appears that Ghanim will allow it -if Allah wills- yes?
The student: If Allah wills.
The Shaykh : Okay, meaning its meaning is: if you conjoin to a genitive pronoun, it is obligatory for you to return the preposition, did you understand or not?
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay, what remains for us is the accusative pronoun, the author did not mention it, and we will see it -if Allah wills later- but the speech is on the genitive pronoun now, it is obligatory to return the preposition whether it is a particle or a noun, an example of that is you say: I passed by you and by Zayd, and it is not permissible for you to say: I passed by you and Zayd, is it not permissible, or not?
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : Because he says: "and obligatory has been made": the return of the genitive marker is obligatory, it has been made, okay: I sat in it and in the house, or: I sat in it and the house?
The student: And in the house.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: And in.
The Shaykh : I visited the mosque so I sat in it and in the house, or: I sat in it and the house?
The student: And in the house.
The Shaykh : It is not permissible, okay: this money is for you and Zayd's?
The student: It is not permissible.
The Shaykh : It is not correct, we must say: for you and for Zayd, is this your boy and Zayd's?
The student: It is not permissible.
The Shaykh : It is not correct, it is obligatory to say: and Zayd's boy, this is your boy and Zayd's boy, yes, why?
Due to the saying of Ibn Malik: "and the return of a genitive marker", and the word genitive marker includes the particle and the noun, yes, okay.
"And the return of a genitive marker in the case of conjunction to *** a pronoun of obligatory genitive has been made
And it is not obligatory in my view, for it has come *** in correct poetry and prose, established".
The student: The reverse, prose and poetry.
The Shaykh : In my view, in poetry and prose, "in poetry and prose", correct.
The student: The copy with us is in poetry and prose.
Another student: It is all the same.
The Shaykh : No, it is not all the same.
The student: The first explanations: in poetry and prose.
The Shaykh :"in correct poetry and prose", poetry may come due to necessity, but correct prose in which there is no necessity or anything that brought it about, okay.
The student: Shall we correct it?
The Shaykh : Yes, correct it.
"And the return of a genitive marker in the case of conjunction to *** a pronoun of obligatory genitive has been made":
"Return" is the subject, its predicate is the sentence: "has been made," and "obligatory" is the second object of "made," placed before it, and the agent in "was made" is hidden, it is the first object, yes, meaning its meaning is that the return of the genitive marker, genitive marker: includes when the genitive marker is a particle or when the genitive marker is a noun, yes, for it is obligatory to return it when conjoined to a pronoun, it is obligatory to return the genitive marker when we conjoin to a pronoun, okay, the author did not say here: attached, because the genitive pronoun cannot be anything but attached, this is the reason, the genitive pronoun is not anything but attached, -put it down, brothers-.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : Now, in the first two verses, he is speaking about conjunction to the nominative pronoun, or not?
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : And he informed us that if it is attached, separation between the conjunction particle and the pronoun is obligatory, and if it is detached? The nominative pronoun!!
The student: Permissible, permissible.
The Shaykh : If it is detached, separation is not obligatory, is that so?
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : Now he moves to the genitive pronoun, and the genitive pronoun cannot be anything but attached, he says: if you conjoin to a genitive pronoun, it is obligatory for you to return the preposition, whether it is a noun or a particle, and here he said: "and the return of a genitive marker".
And he followed Ibn Jurum, yes, because Ibn Jurum is the one who says genitive instead of genitive case, he did not say: and the return of a preposition, but for necessity, there is no harm in borrowing, you borrow from Ibn Jurum this time, and it appears that Ghanim will allow it -if Allah wills- yes?
The student: If Allah wills.
The Shaykh : Okay, meaning its meaning is: if you conjoin to a genitive pronoun, it is obligatory for you to return the preposition, did you understand or not?
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay, what remains for us is the accusative pronoun, the author did not mention it, and we will see it -if Allah wills later- but the speech is on the genitive pronoun now, it is obligatory to return the preposition whether it is a particle or a noun, an example of that is you say: I passed by you and by Zayd, and it is not permissible for you to say: I passed by you and Zayd, is it not permissible, or not?
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : Because he says: "and obligatory has been made": the return of the genitive marker is obligatory, it has been made, okay: I sat in it and in the house, or: I sat in it and the house?
The student: And in the house.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: And in.
The Shaykh : I visited the mosque so I sat in it and in the house, or: I sat in it and the house?
The student: And in the house.
The Shaykh : It is not permissible, okay: this money is for you and Zayd's?
The student: It is not permissible.
The Shaykh : It is not correct, we must say: for you and for Zayd, is this your boy and Zayd's?
The student: It is not permissible.
The Shaykh : It is not correct, it is obligatory to say: and Zayd's boy, this is your boy and Zayd's boy, yes, why?
Due to the saying of Ibn Malik: "and the return of a genitive marker", and the word genitive marker includes the particle and the noun, yes, okay.