Clarification of the method of al-mad, which is the moderate handful in wudu'

The student : Abu 'Abdullah is asking.

The Shaykh : This is not a room.

The questioner : It is not a room.

The Shaykh : It is not a room... it is.
The student : It could be.

The Shaykh : No, it is not possible. Try, try, and do not worry, or do you have little water?
The student : No, there is water.

The Shaykh : Okay, learn.
The student : In the name of Allah, it is broken now, Shaykh.

The Shaykh : No, it is not broken. You do not need to worry.
The student : It is complete and more.

The Shaykh : By Allah, it is complete, heh, but perhaps my hand is, heh heh.
The student : The moderate handful.

The Shaykh: Hehehe.

The questioner : Our Shaykh, the point we want to see, by Allah.
The student : He did this and poured.

The Shaykh : ... the sa' (a dry measure of about 3 kg), but we tried to find for it like a turn, a rotation, meaning we want two moderate handfuls. I may not be moderate, heh.
The student : The moderation is your moderation, our Shaykh.

The Shaykh : Heh.

The questioner : Our Shaykh, okay, this method... we continue with it like this, rubbing.

The Shaykh : That is correct.