What is the ruling on one who eats the pre-dawn meal (suhur) five minutes after the call to prayer announced in the calendar?
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The questioner : A sister asked me during the time of suhur in Ramadan. She ate five minutes after the time announced in the calendar, knowing that the Fajr call to prayer was about to be made according to the calendar, but she ate five minutes after that. What is the ruling on her day?
The Shaykh : If the local time there, which she ate five minutes after, was one she thought was correct and she was aware of it and did it intentionally, then her day is invalid and she must make it up. Otherwise, if she does not adopt that time, as is the case with us here, we eat after the call to prayer here by about twenty-five minutes, and we do so intentionally because...
The questioner : The adhan for Fajr.
The Shaykh : Yes, yes, we eat after the Fajr call to prayer here by about twenty-five minutes because they call to prayer before the time by that amount, twenty-five minutes.
The questioner : And so we have the right to eat after the adhan for these twenty-five minutes. If the woman you are asking about adopts that time or that timing and does so deliberately and intentionally, then she must make up the fast.
The questioner : Making up the fast is one day, or is it two months, or how?
The Shaykh : No, she must make it up for one day. I mean, one day.
The questioner : One day.
The Shaykh : Because she may have some kind of excuse, unless she is like the one who intentionally breaks the fast in broad daylight, where it is clear that he does not want to fast.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : This type of person who breaks the fast can never make it up for as long as they live.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Because whoever intentionally breaks the fast on a day of Ramadan...
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : ...is like the one who intentionally misses one of the prayers; he cannot make up that day or make up that prayer.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : So, the one who intentionally breaks the fast on a day of Ramadan has his ruling, and the one who errs due to some kind of doubt or excuse has another ruling.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : As for the one who forgets...
The questioner : The one who calls the adhan for you first, does that mean a person can pray Fajr after it, or can they not?
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you. Which call to prayer, the one at our place or the one at your place?
The questioner : The one you have?
The Shaykh : The first call to prayer.
The questioner : You have two adhans, it is not like that. The first adhan is a warning that it is time to eat now.
The Shaykh : Yes, yes, I told you the Fajr call to prayer here is the second one in your terminology.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : The second call to prayer here is made twenty-five minutes before the true dawn appears. That is a mistake, because they call to prayer according to the calendar and the timing. What timing? The astronomical timing, and the astronomical timing in all countries of the world is not according to the Islamic legal timing.
The questioner : Okay, what is the Shari'ah timing, Your Eminence?The Shaykh ؟
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you. The Islamic legal timing for Fajr is as in the Qur'an:.
The questioner :[Al-Baqarah 2:187].
The Shaykh : That is it. And the midday prayer (Zuhr) is when the sun passes from the middle of the sky, and the afternoon prayer ('Asr) is when the shadow of a thing becomes twice its length plus the shadow at noon, and the sunset prayer (Maghrib) is when the sun sets, yes, and the night prayer ('Isha') is when the red twilight disappears. These are the Islamic legal times.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : As for...
The questioner : We have darkness in Fajr and in the timing when one comes down from the house, it is complete darkness.
The Shaykh : Yes, that means they are praying before the time.
The questioner : They pray before the time.
The Shaykh : This is a problem.
The questioner : My third question, Your Eminence.The Shaykh : May Allah preserve you. There is another sister who is looking at the house, she has, I mean, any... and she asks me... a situation, a bit tired. I really have no information about this topic, I don't know what to answer her.
The Shaykh : First, I draw your attention to the fact that you have now put me in a difficult position with the third question, because you told me you had only two questions.
The questioner : I did not say, by Allah, that I have two questions.
The Shaykh : If it were.
The questioner : I said I have a few questions.
The Shaykh : I, by Allah, understood two questions. The important thing is...
The questioner : By Allah, if you want... I will not speak to you again.
The Shaykh : The important thing is that the time is about to end and we need to leave room for others.
The questioner : Okay, let us speak to you again.
The Shaykh : Welcome.
The questioner : O honorable scholar, may Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : And may Allah protect you, if Allah wills.
The questioner : Peace be upon you and Allah's mercy and blessings.
The Shaykh : If the local time there, which she ate five minutes after, was one she thought was correct and she was aware of it and did it intentionally, then her day is invalid and she must make it up. Otherwise, if she does not adopt that time, as is the case with us here, we eat after the call to prayer here by about twenty-five minutes, and we do so intentionally because...
The questioner : The adhan for Fajr.
The Shaykh : Yes, yes, we eat after the Fajr call to prayer here by about twenty-five minutes because they call to prayer before the time by that amount, twenty-five minutes.
The questioner : And so we have the right to eat after the adhan for these twenty-five minutes. If the woman you are asking about adopts that time or that timing and does so deliberately and intentionally, then she must make up the fast.
The questioner : Making up the fast is one day, or is it two months, or how?
The Shaykh : No, she must make it up for one day. I mean, one day.
The questioner : One day.
The Shaykh : Because she may have some kind of excuse, unless she is like the one who intentionally breaks the fast in broad daylight, where it is clear that he does not want to fast.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : This type of person who breaks the fast can never make it up for as long as they live.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Because whoever intentionally breaks the fast on a day of Ramadan...
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : ...is like the one who intentionally misses one of the prayers; he cannot make up that day or make up that prayer.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : So, the one who intentionally breaks the fast on a day of Ramadan has his ruling, and the one who errs due to some kind of doubt or excuse has another ruling.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : As for the one who forgets...
The questioner : The one who calls the adhan for you first, does that mean a person can pray Fajr after it, or can they not?
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you. Which call to prayer, the one at our place or the one at your place?
The questioner : The one you have?
The Shaykh : The first call to prayer.
The questioner : You have two adhans, it is not like that. The first adhan is a warning that it is time to eat now.
The Shaykh : Yes, yes, I told you the Fajr call to prayer here is the second one in your terminology.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : The second call to prayer here is made twenty-five minutes before the true dawn appears. That is a mistake, because they call to prayer according to the calendar and the timing. What timing? The astronomical timing, and the astronomical timing in all countries of the world is not according to the Islamic legal timing.
The questioner : Okay, what is the Shari'ah timing, Your Eminence?The Shaykh ؟
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you. The Islamic legal timing for Fajr is as in the Qur'an:
And eat and drink
وَكُلُوا وَاشْرَبُواThe questioner :
until the white thread of dawn becomes distinct to you from the black thread
حَتَّى يَتَبَيَّنَ لَكُمُ الْخَيْطُ الْأَبْيَضُ مِنَ الْخَيْطِ الْأَسْوَدِThe Shaykh : That is it. And the midday prayer (Zuhr) is when the sun passes from the middle of the sky, and the afternoon prayer ('Asr) is when the shadow of a thing becomes twice its length plus the shadow at noon, and the sunset prayer (Maghrib) is when the sun sets, yes, and the night prayer ('Isha') is when the red twilight disappears. These are the Islamic legal times.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : As for...
The questioner : We have darkness in Fajr and in the timing when one comes down from the house, it is complete darkness.
The Shaykh : Yes, that means they are praying before the time.
The questioner : They pray before the time.
The Shaykh : This is a problem.
The questioner : My third question, Your Eminence.The Shaykh : May Allah preserve you. There is another sister who is looking at the house, she has, I mean, any... and she asks me... a situation, a bit tired. I really have no information about this topic, I don't know what to answer her.
The Shaykh : First, I draw your attention to the fact that you have now put me in a difficult position with the third question, because you told me you had only two questions.
The questioner : I did not say, by Allah, that I have two questions.
The Shaykh : If it were.
The questioner : I said I have a few questions.
The Shaykh : I, by Allah, understood two questions. The important thing is...
The questioner : By Allah, if you want... I will not speak to you again.
The Shaykh : The important thing is that the time is about to end and we need to leave room for others.
The questioner : Okay, let us speak to you again.
The Shaykh : Welcome.
The questioner : O honorable scholar, may Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : And may Allah protect you, if Allah wills.
The questioner : Peace be upon you and Allah's mercy and blessings.
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