Did debates take place in the past between the people of the Sunnah and the other sects, such that a ruling was issued on them regarding disbelief or remaining within Islam, like the "Imamiyyah"?
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The questioner : The subject of the Islamic sects that emerged in the past centuries is seventy-three sects, for example, some of which are disbelievers and some are not. From the conditions you mentioned, Shaykh, did debates take place between a scholar of the Book and the Sunnah and this innovator, or the one who reached the level of disbelief?
Is it possible that in history, for example, between the Twelver Imamiyyah and the Sunnis, that a Sunni would discuss with them or establish the argument against them in the manner you mentioned, for example, until a ruling is issued on them regarding disbelief or remaining within Islam?
The Shaykh : Of course, those who used to discuss with them were scholars, but the point I am circling around is also not mentioned here, because what does the hadith of the sects mean by "in the Fire"? It means they are eternal in it.
The questioner : No, it is not a condition.
The Shaykh : So then,
The questioner : Some of them will be eternal in the Fire.
The Shaykh : Correct, and I say that among these people, some will be eternal in the Fire, but which ones?
The questioner : Allah knows best.
The Shaykh : We have discussed the specification, so your question now is actually equivalent to the previous discussion: "La ilaha illa Allah" (There is no god but Allah).
Is it possible that in history, for example, between the Twelver Imamiyyah and the Sunnis, that a Sunni would discuss with them or establish the argument against them in the manner you mentioned, for example, until a ruling is issued on them regarding disbelief or remaining within Islam?
The Shaykh : Of course, those who used to discuss with them were scholars, but the point I am circling around is also not mentioned here, because what does the hadith of the sects mean by "in the Fire"? It means they are eternal in it.
The questioner : No, it is not a condition.
The Shaykh : So then,
The questioner : Some of them will be eternal in the Fire.
The Shaykh : Correct, and I say that among these people, some will be eternal in the Fire, but which ones?
The questioner : Allah knows best.
The Shaykh : We have discussed the specification, so your question now is actually equivalent to the previous discussion: "La ilaha illa Allah" (There is no god but Allah).