Continuation of the discussion on the ruling regarding the use of electric shock in treating the epileptic
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The Shaykh : I want to say from this: whether the materialist doctors use electric shocks, or these modern innovators of today who will be asked about it, this means is not permissible for us to rush to deny it except in the case where its bad effects appear in those in whom this modern means is used. Therefore, what we should do is not to mix what is of the material means that do not enter into religious innovation. In other words, we want to distinguish between the unlegislated interests and religious innovations. The unlegislated interests are the modern means that occur and it becomes clear to the Muslims that they are in need of them, so there is no objection to using them as long as they do not contradict a Shari'ah text. As for it being a new matter, that is nothing; we are living in many new things, and many, but they are not among the new matters in the religion. And you all know, if Allah wills, that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: Sahih Muslim 1718a meaning: in this religion of ours Sahih Muslim 1718a. So it is obligatory for us to distinguish between this and other means that enter into the religion in the name of blessing and seeking blessing and the like. As for that, as long as it has not come, we do not approve of it. But that type, like electric shocks, we do not deny it as long as it is a means of treatment. This is what I have.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : My answer does not differ from that, because the matter is based on experience. You see the materialist doctors, when their experiments reached the use of this means, they reached this means through experiments without knowing the secret: is there a jinn that is affected by such a means or not? But they knew, as it was said about some of the Bedouins: "How did you know your Lord? He said: The trace indicates the traveler". So they deduced from this use after the experiment that this experiment is beneficial. But for example, are there germs that they kill by means of this means, which is electric shocks? They cannot explain it, but they found that these shocks are beneficial shocks for a type of these diseases. These people now, as you report, and we in the Levant do not know anything of that, they explain that the jinn that possessed that human is affected by these electric shocks. It is possible that the matter is so, and it is possible that it is not so. But the important thing is that we must look at the effects of these shocks: did they benefit or not? Like the beating that is also reported about some of the modern innovators of today or from the old ones. This beating, as we know, is harmful for ordinary living people. But they say by experience that this epileptic, no matter how much you beat him with a thick stick, for example, such that if he were not possessed it would have hurt him and perhaps broken him, but in this case he is not affected. Rather, the possessor from the jinn is affected, if the expression is correct. So we cannot say that this torture from them is correct. But the important thing is that we look at the effect. If the effect is beneficial for the epileptics, then it is fine, as long as this means first does not contradict the Shari'ah, and second does not harm the epileptic. This is what I have, and Allah knows best.
The questioner : Is it permissible for everyone to treat with this?
The Shaykh : No, it is not for everyone, like medical treatment. Is it permissible for everyone to treat? as he (peace be upon him) said.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : This is enough. We cannot enter into the details.
The questioner : Because the matter ...
The Shaykh : It is fine, my brother, in what we mentioned is sufficient, because the details are difficult for us to say. We do not permit any ... like knowledge, completely. Is it permissible for a student of knowledge to issue a fatwa while he has not yet finished the second degree or the secondary school as they say today? It is not permissible. Is it permissible for him to authenticate and weaken in the hadiths as some of the young students do today while he is still at the beginning of the path? Of course, it is not permissible. It is not permissible to treat except for the people of knowledge of medicine, and so on. Yes.
He who innovates things in our affairs
من أحدث في أمرنا هذاfor which there is no valid (reason) (commits sin) and these are to be rejected.
ما ليس منه ، فهو ردٌّThe questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : My answer does not differ from that, because the matter is based on experience. You see the materialist doctors, when their experiments reached the use of this means, they reached this means through experiments without knowing the secret: is there a jinn that is affected by such a means or not? But they knew, as it was said about some of the Bedouins: "How did you know your Lord? He said: The trace indicates the traveler". So they deduced from this use after the experiment that this experiment is beneficial. But for example, are there germs that they kill by means of this means, which is electric shocks? They cannot explain it, but they found that these shocks are beneficial shocks for a type of these diseases. These people now, as you report, and we in the Levant do not know anything of that, they explain that the jinn that possessed that human is affected by these electric shocks. It is possible that the matter is so, and it is possible that it is not so. But the important thing is that we must look at the effects of these shocks: did they benefit or not? Like the beating that is also reported about some of the modern innovators of today or from the old ones. This beating, as we know, is harmful for ordinary living people. But they say by experience that this epileptic, no matter how much you beat him with a thick stick, for example, such that if he were not possessed it would have hurt him and perhaps broken him, but in this case he is not affected. Rather, the possessor from the jinn is affected, if the expression is correct. So we cannot say that this torture from them is correct. But the important thing is that we look at the effect. If the effect is beneficial for the epileptics, then it is fine, as long as this means first does not contradict the Shari'ah, and second does not harm the epileptic. This is what I have, and Allah knows best.
The questioner : Is it permissible for everyone to treat with this?
The Shaykh : No, it is not for everyone, like medical treatment. Is it permissible for everyone to treat?
Whoever practices medicine and is not a doctor is the guarantor.
من تطبب وليس بطبيب فهو ضامنThe questioner : ...
The Shaykh : This is enough. We cannot enter into the details.
The questioner : Because the matter ...
The Shaykh : It is fine, my brother, in what we mentioned is sufficient, because the details are difficult for us to say. We do not permit any ... like knowledge, completely. Is it permissible for a student of knowledge to issue a fatwa while he has not yet finished the second degree or the secondary school as they say today? It is not permissible. Is it permissible for him to authenticate and weaken in the hadiths as some of the young students do today while he is still at the beginning of the path? Of course, it is not permissible. It is not permissible to treat except for the people of knowledge of medicine, and so on. Yes.