Is the disbelief mentioned in the hadith practical disbelief or doctrinal disbelief: (He offered even a fly, so he offered a fly and entered the Fire)?
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The questioner : It is the same as what is in this point, just that.
The Shaykh : Please go ahead.
The questioner : The hadith of the fly means the same... Is this practical disbelief or doctrinal disbelief, and is the entry into the Fire eternal abode or just entry into the punishment? And did it occur in the man's heart when he offered the fly that he was disbelieving in Allah, or did he only do it to avoid harm?
The Shaykh : This question opens up a field for useful research, which is:
First: This is not an authentic hadith.
The questioner : Nor is it a mawquf (report stopping at a Companion)?
The Shaykh : Of course, nor is it a mawquf, because this is among the mawquf reports that occurred before the Mission. It may be from the Isra'iliyyat (Jewish or Christian traditions), so it does not have the ruling of a marfu' (report traced to the Prophet) like some mawquf hadiths that relate to the Qur'an and the descent of the Qur'an to the lowest heaven, and the like.
Second: Let us assume it is a marfu' hadith.
The questioner : Authentic.
The Shaykh : And authentic, yes. In that case, it is clear from the context that he offered the fly out of fear. And Allah says:[An-Nahl 16:106] So if we suppose that at that moment he offered the fly as an act of drawing near to the idol.
The questioner : Meaning that the intention of drawing near occurred in his heart at that moment.
The Shaykh : Then he is a disbeliever, yes.
The questioner : Now, if we do not suppose that, and we say that he offered it out of fear, so he performed the outward act of shirk (associating partners with Allah) while his heart was upon tawhid (the oneness of Allah).
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed
The questioner : So what is the entry into the Fire? Is it entry that is not eternal?
The Shaykh : No, no, here he does not enter the Fire at all.
The questioner : Now, how does it say here: "He entered the Fire"?
The student: Weak.
The Shaykh : Because it was not reported, so we go back and say:
The questioner : No, Shaykh, let us assume it is authentic now. After we have finished, I will discuss it on the assumption that it is authentic?
The Shaykh : Authentic, but we say first that we stated that the hadith is not authentic.
As for if it were authentic
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : And he entered the Fire, it is because he did not establish the steadfastness of the heroes as, for example, Bilal al-Habashi (may Allah be pleased with him) did. Rather, he was somewhat lenient and committed this act of drawing near to the idols. So practically, because he was shortcoming, he entered the Fire, but this Fire is not the Fire of eternal abode, but rather the Fire of the sinners.
The questioner : Of course, your statement implies that there is a dispensation for performing the act of disbelief while the heart is upon tawhid for this Ummah (the Muslim community). This is the final word, because the Companions did more than this, even to the point of being tortured, until it was said, as in the authentic hadith, "This is my god" or such, or "This is my Lord."
The Shaykh : I do not think any of the Companions said: "This is my god."
The questioner : Even if he was tortured, well, there is not[An-Nahl 16:106]
The Shaykh : No problem, we are with the verse.
The questioner : Yes, so it indicates the permissibility if he was coerced into this act and did it to avert the killing of himself, while his heart was upon tawhid.
The Shaykh : No problem, this is the rule. He is not punished with any type of punishment, but if there was an escape for him there, it might have been possible.
The Shaykh : Please go ahead.
The questioner : The hadith of the fly
He offered even a fly, so he offered a fly and entered the Fire
قرب ولو ذبابة فقرب ذبابة فدخل النارThe Shaykh : This question opens up a field for useful research, which is:
First: This is not an authentic hadith.
The questioner : Nor is it a mawquf (report stopping at a Companion)?
The Shaykh : Of course, nor is it a mawquf, because this is among the mawquf reports that occurred before the Mission. It may be from the Isra'iliyyat (Jewish or Christian traditions), so it does not have the ruling of a marfu' (report traced to the Prophet) like some mawquf hadiths that relate to the Qur'an and the descent of the Qur'an to the lowest heaven, and the like.
Second: Let us assume it is a marfu' hadith.
The questioner : Authentic.
The Shaykh : And authentic, yes. In that case, it is clear from the context that he offered the fly out of fear. And Allah says:
except for one who is forced [to renounce his religion] while his heart is secure in faith
إلا من أكره وقلبه مطمئن بالإيمانThe questioner : Meaning that the intention of drawing near occurred in his heart at that moment.
The Shaykh : Then he is a disbeliever, yes.
The questioner : Now, if we do not suppose that, and we say that he offered it out of fear, so he performed the outward act of shirk (associating partners with Allah) while his heart was upon tawhid (the oneness of Allah).
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed
The questioner : So what is the entry into the Fire? Is it entry that is not eternal?
The Shaykh : No, no, here he does not enter the Fire at all.
The questioner : Now, how does it say here: "He entered the Fire"?
The student: Weak.
The Shaykh : Because it was not reported, so we go back and say:
The questioner : No, Shaykh, let us assume it is authentic now. After we have finished, I will discuss it on the assumption that it is authentic?
The Shaykh : Authentic, but we say first that we stated that the hadith is not authentic.
As for if it were authentic
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : And he entered the Fire, it is because he did not establish the steadfastness of the heroes as, for example, Bilal al-Habashi (may Allah be pleased with him) did. Rather, he was somewhat lenient and committed this act of drawing near to the idols. So practically, because he was shortcoming, he entered the Fire, but this Fire is not the Fire of eternal abode, but rather the Fire of the sinners.
The questioner : Of course, your statement implies that there is a dispensation for performing the act of disbelief while the heart is upon tawhid for this Ummah (the Muslim community). This is the final word, because the Companions did more than this, even to the point of being tortured, until it was said, as in the authentic hadith, "This is my god" or such, or "This is my Lord."
The Shaykh : I do not think any of the Companions said: "This is my god."
The questioner : Even if he was tortured, well, there is not
except for one who is forced [to renounce his religion] while his heart is secure in faith
إلا من أكره وقلبه مطمئن بالإيمانThe Shaykh : No problem, we are with the verse.
The questioner : Yes, so it indicates the permissibility if he was coerced into this act and did it to avert the killing of himself, while his heart was upon tawhid.
The Shaykh : No problem, this is the rule. He is not punished with any type of punishment, but if there was an escape for him there, it might have been possible.
