What is your comment on al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar’s defense of the narrations in the two Shaykhs’ books from the mixed narrators and the concealers, and others? Do you not see that there is some contrivance in it?
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The questioner : A Shaykh on the subject of the two Sahihs. We see, for example, in the defense of al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar or others, sometimes some contrivance regarding, for example, the mixed narrator in the narration of the two Shaykhs or the two Shaykhs from the mixed narrators and from
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed.
The questioner : and from the concealers and others. Shaykh, what is your opinion on these answers to it?
The Shaykh : This is a very clear matter, and I feel that when he made a heading for Abu Ishaq al-Sabi'i, he said that there is no one in the Sahih who narrated from him after his mixing, and this is contrary to reality.
The questioner : That is, it is understood from the path of the chain regarding the weakness of the hadiths that do not have an explicit answer.
The Shaykh : Yes, that is right, unless they have corroborating narrations or narrators outside the Sahih who heard from him, for example, in our case here, before the mixing. But if we stop at Ibn Hajar’s claim, it is not correct.
The questioner : It is reported from Imam Muslim (may Allah have mercy on him) that Abu Zur'ah criticized him for including a narration from a mixed narrator. I do not remember his name; he was an Egyptian. I do not remember his name. So when this criticism was conveyed to Muslim (may Allah have mercy on him),
The Shaykh : What is it? I do not know. Yes.
The questioner : He said, "Where would I find a hadith? I said that I narrated from him, and where would I find a hadith from so-and-so, except by elevation?" That is, he mentioned the issue of elevation. He said that he included it for him because its chain is elevated, and yet he did not mention the correct chain for the lower one. So they analogized from this and said, "Perhaps the author of the Sahih looked at hadiths with a correct chain, but he preferred these chains that are spoken about, considering certain matters, among which is elevation."
The Shaykh : May Allah bless you, this is a statement that is accepted and cannot be refuted, because it falls within the realm of possibility. But not every matter that falls within the realm of possibility actually occurred.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Ah, so in that case, the likelihood of it occurring or not occurring is the subject of scientific research. If al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar was unable to bring the lower chain to strengthen the elevated chain, and no one else like him or close to him who came after him, and who might add some things to his work,
despite that, their position toward that chain was the same as Ibn Hajar’s own position. They did not find that chain. What is it? Al-Dani, this one.
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : The lower one.
The Shaykh : The lower one, yes, to strengthen it with it. So in that case, and given this situation, it is more likely that the claimed possibility did not occur. And all of this is within the limits of research, investigation, and induction to the extent possible.
The questioner : Okay, Shaykh, there is a question.
The Shaykh : Yes
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed.
The questioner : and from the concealers and others. Shaykh, what is your opinion on these answers to it?
The Shaykh : This is a very clear matter, and I feel that when he made a heading for Abu Ishaq al-Sabi'i, he said that there is no one in the Sahih who narrated from him after his mixing, and this is contrary to reality.
The questioner : That is, it is understood from the path of the chain regarding the weakness of the hadiths that do not have an explicit answer.
The Shaykh : Yes, that is right, unless they have corroborating narrations or narrators outside the Sahih who heard from him, for example, in our case here, before the mixing. But if we stop at Ibn Hajar’s claim, it is not correct.
The questioner : It is reported from Imam Muslim (may Allah have mercy on him) that Abu Zur'ah criticized him for including a narration from a mixed narrator. I do not remember his name; he was an Egyptian. I do not remember his name. So when this criticism was conveyed to Muslim (may Allah have mercy on him),
The Shaykh : What is it? I do not know. Yes.
The questioner : He said, "Where would I find a hadith? I said that I narrated from him, and where would I find a hadith from so-and-so, except by elevation?" That is, he mentioned the issue of elevation. He said that he included it for him because its chain is elevated, and yet he did not mention the correct chain for the lower one. So they analogized from this and said, "Perhaps the author of the Sahih looked at hadiths with a correct chain, but he preferred these chains that are spoken about, considering certain matters, among which is elevation."
The Shaykh : May Allah bless you, this is a statement that is accepted and cannot be refuted, because it falls within the realm of possibility. But not every matter that falls within the realm of possibility actually occurred.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Ah, so in that case, the likelihood of it occurring or not occurring is the subject of scientific research. If al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar was unable to bring the lower chain to strengthen the elevated chain, and no one else like him or close to him who came after him, and who might add some things to his work,
despite that, their position toward that chain was the same as Ibn Hajar’s own position. They did not find that chain. What is it? Al-Dani, this one.
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : The lower one.
The Shaykh : The lower one, yes, to strengthen it with it. So in that case, and given this situation, it is more likely that the claimed possibility did not occur. And all of this is within the limits of research, investigation, and induction to the extent possible.
The questioner : Okay, Shaykh, there is a question.
The Shaykh : Yes