All right, Shaykh, the hadith: "You will follow the ways of those who came before you, so close to the width of an arrowhead." Shaykh Muhammad ibn 'Abd al-Wahhab mentioned the phrase "arrowhead" in his book *Tawhid* and referred to the two Sahihs.

The questioner : All right, Shaykh, the hadith mentionedThe Shaykh : Muhammad ibn 'Abd al-Wahhab in the book *Tawhid* the phrase "arrowhead" and referred to the two Sahihs. This phrase is not found in the two Sahihs; it is found in the Musnad through this chain, which includes 'Ali ibn al-Ja'd and Shu'ayb ibn Hayshab. The phrase began with then he mentioned So, is the one who referred to the two Sahihs with this text considered weak, or is it considered authentic?

The Shaykh : Is the one who referred to the two Sahihs with this phrase considered weak? Who is the weak one?

The questioner : This hadith with this phrase is not found in the two Sahihs. I mean the phrase "arrowhead" is not in the two Sahihs.

The Shaykh : May Allah forgive you. You do not know how to ask. If you were alone, the disaster would have been less, but most students are like this. You asked if it is weak. I am clarifying with you: what do you mean? Who is the doer? You are accustomed to changing the phrase and bringing up another cause, while I am standing by the first phrase which I did not understand from you.

The questioner : I mean the hadith "You will follow," is it not?

The Shaykh : I repeat your words to you, I repeat your words to you so you know that I understood you, but I did not understand your last statement. Shall I repeat it?

The questioner : I mean, O honorableThe Shaykh : I mean the hadith found in the Musnad, and the Musnad has this

The Shaykh : I am asking you a question. I repeat what you said so you understand that I understood you. Why do you not speak? Say, say, my brother. There is no modesty in knowledge, but there is goodness in asking. You are saying thatThe Shaykh : Muhammad ibn 'Abd al-Wahhab attributed the hadith of "arrowhead by arrowhead" to the two Sahihs, and it is not in the two Sahihs, and you said that it contains so-and-so and Shu'ayb ibn Hayshab, and they are weak, and so on. I understood this from you. What is beyond that?

The questioner : I mean, this hadith, whoever refers it to the two Sahihs with this phrase, is naturally weak.

The Shaykh : Who heard this statement? Who is the weak one? I am asking you. Since when?

The questioner : The hadith of the arrowhead

The Shaykh : You are saying in Arabic: whoever attributes this hadith to the two Sahihs is weak. Is it weak? Yes, the hadith.

The questioner : The hadith, yes.

The Shaykh : Or is the one who attributes it? This is non-Arabic speech. This is not said. You are saying "whoever attributes this" is the subject, and the predicate is "is weak."

The questioner : Yes.

The Shaykh : Can you not say as you said before, without the turning and twisting? Since the hadith contains Shu'ayb ibn Hayshab, and since it is not in the two Sahihs, it is weak. Do not say "who," because "who" is for a rational being, and a hadith is said to be "what" and not "who." So, you want to say what you said before and presented to your ears, where you said: "You are saying that this hadith was attributed byThe Shaykh : Muhammad ibn 'Abd al-Wahhab to the two Sahihs, and it does not exist there, and it is found in some of the Sunan, such as al-Tirmidhi, and it contains Shu'ayb ibn Hayshab and another man, and they are weak, so the hadith is weak. Do you say more than this?

The questioner : No, our Shaykh.

The Shaykh : All right, now let us return and say: does the mere absence of a hadith from the two Sahihs necessitate that it is weak?

The questioner : No, it does not necessitate that.

The Shaykh : Good. Does the mere fact that a hadith contains a weak man or more necessitate that it is a weak hadith?

The questioner : It does not necessitate that.

The Shaykh : So, what are you aiming at with all this speech?

The questioner : I mean, I intended that this hadith of the arrowhead is famous. Does the one who cites it, does he cite hadiths from the two Sahihs to authenticate for such men their path, the path of the two Sahihs?

The Shaykh : Now you are mentioning something new from what passed?

The questioner : No

The Shaykh : Allahu Akbar.

The questioner : Yes, yes, I am mentioning, yes.

The Shaykh : You have confused me, by Allah. You have confused me. What is the new thing? Now express it in a concise phrase so that I first understand you, and then I look to see if this statement is correct or not?

The questioner : The issue is when I preferred the statement of Ibn Hajar (may Allah have mercy on him), I said, "Shaykh, you are, I think, in his wording, he went, his text is, that it is weak, it is not authentic. I think this is the meaning."

The Shaykh : Yes, he is trustworthy and not accused, yes.

The questioner : And so is the other man, who is 'Ali ibn al-Ja'd.

The Shaykh : 'Ali ibn whom?

The questioner : 'Ali ibn al-Ja'd.

The Shaykh : 'Ali ibn al-Ja'd.

The questioner : I think

The Shaykh : No, 'Ali ibn al-Ja'd is trustworthy. Where is the hadith mentioned?

The questioner : This hadith is found in the Musnad.

The Shaykh : No, from my books, I mean.

The questioner : No, I did not mention it.

The Shaykh : You said

The questioner : No, I am not saying I returned to one of the hadiths I mentioned, I authenticated it, I mentioned Ibn Hayshab and I mentioned from 'Ali ibn al-Ja'd, but Ibn Hayshab, I mentioned, I do not remember what I said...

The Shaykh : Because this 'Ali ibn al-Ja'd is trustworthy, whereas Shu'ayb is known for his poor memory. All right, and what after that?

The questioner : So I said, perhapsThe Shaykh : he has another path that he authenticated or something, so I did not find in the Jami'

The Shaykh : Is the hadith mentioned in the Jami'?

The questioner : I say I did not find in the Jami', I did not find it, not in the Da'if and not in the Sahih, the phrase "arrowhead." So I said, perhaps you mentioned it in the unprinted books.

The Shaykh : By Allah, I do not know now. In the Sahih it is known and the hadith of the arrowhead is known, but I do not remember now if I extracted it in some of the other books.