Is the term "hadith" applied to a weak or fabricated hadith?
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The questioner : The criticism is not of the hadith itself... The criticism is not of the hadith itself.
The Shaykh : Yes?
Another questioner : It is difficult for him.
The Shaykh : Be patient, let him...
The questioner : A hadith is a hadith.
The Shaykh : No, from where...?
The questioner : But its chain of narration...
The Shaykh : No, allow me, your statement: "A hadith is a hadith" is incorrect, because in this case, I do not know what it is called from a linguistic perspective? It is said—for example—in a section of hadith that is severely weak, it is called: a fabricated hadith, a false hadith, so is it called: a hadith? No.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : If you allow me, it is said: a hadith described with a characteristic, so it is said: this is a fabricated hadith, and it is not said in any case: it is a hadith, did you notice how? It is said: this is a very weak hadith, its chain of narration means, it is not said in any case: it is a hadith.
The questioner : Its attribution, it is just a term.
Another questioner : Yes, technically.
The Shaykh : So we have reached your specific point, this is a hadith whose chain of narration is weak, yes weak, but in any case it is a hadith; no, this is called a hadith figuratively; meaning: it was narrated thus as being attributed to the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) as a hadith, but what is its rank? Either weak, or very weak, or fabricated.
Eid Abbasi : It is not established.
The Shaykh : So it is not said of this what was said regarding the authentic hadith in all its ranks, starting from the solitary hadith to the widely transmitted hadith to the famous hadith to the mass-transmitted hadith; because all these varying ranks are united by one rank, which is authenticity, whereas the weak hadith is not so; therefore you say: this is an authentic solitary hadith, yes in any case it is a hadith, this is correct speech, but the weak hadith is not so; therefore the objection you raise regarding the weak hadith by analogy to what was previously explained is not valid.
The Shaykh : Yes?
Another questioner : It is difficult for him.
The Shaykh : Be patient, let him...
The questioner : A hadith is a hadith.
The Shaykh : No, from where...?
The questioner : But its chain of narration...
The Shaykh : No, allow me, your statement: "A hadith is a hadith" is incorrect, because in this case, I do not know what it is called from a linguistic perspective? It is said—for example—in a section of hadith that is severely weak, it is called: a fabricated hadith, a false hadith, so is it called: a hadith? No.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : If you allow me, it is said: a hadith described with a characteristic, so it is said: this is a fabricated hadith, and it is not said in any case: it is a hadith, did you notice how? It is said: this is a very weak hadith, its chain of narration means, it is not said in any case: it is a hadith.
The questioner : Its attribution, it is just a term.
Another questioner : Yes, technically.
The Shaykh : So we have reached your specific point, this is a hadith whose chain of narration is weak, yes weak, but in any case it is a hadith; no, this is called a hadith figuratively; meaning: it was narrated thus as being attributed to the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) as a hadith, but what is its rank? Either weak, or very weak, or fabricated.
Eid Abbasi : It is not established.
The Shaykh : So it is not said of this what was said regarding the authentic hadith in all its ranks, starting from the solitary hadith to the widely transmitted hadith to the famous hadith to the mass-transmitted hadith; because all these varying ranks are united by one rank, which is authenticity, whereas the weak hadith is not so; therefore you say: this is an authentic solitary hadith, yes in any case it is a hadith, this is correct speech, but the weak hadith is not so; therefore the objection you raise regarding the weak hadith by analogy to what was previously explained is not valid.
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