Those whose generation was later among the authors of compiled works, such as al-Bayhaqi and al-Hakim; for among their shaykhs are those who rely on chains of narration, like al-Bayhaqi and al-Hakim.
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The questioner: In another issue, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh: Go ahead.
The questioner: And it is regarding those whose generation was later among the authors of compiled works, such as al-Bayhaqi and al-Hakim, and also... so among their shaykhs are those who rely on chains of narration, like al-Bayhaqi and al-Hakim, in examining the men of the chain of narration; is it said that it is obligatory to examine all the men of the chain of narration, even the shaykh of...?
The Shaykh: Is it said?
The questioner: Is it said that it is necessary to examine every man in the chain of narration, even his shaykh...? Or is it said that this is done only if the chain does not pass through one of the authors of the books? Yes, or is it said: Yes, that one does not examine at all? So what is the benefit of al-Dhahabi's (may Allah have mercy on him) practice in his classification of "Al-Mustadrak" when he sometimes authenticates the shaykh of the narrator and the shaykh of his shaykh... with his narration from the ninth generation, sometimes the tenth? Is this said to be from... his own action... the rule in this, or what do you say?
The Shaykh: I say: In the case or in the chain, if it does not revolve around an author of the books of the Sunnah and a hadith from these books; then it is necessary, in this case, to study all the men of the chain; from the shaykh of al-Bayhaqi in the example, or al-Hakim...; because we have felt a lot of laxity from al-Hakim first, and from al-Dhahabi who agrees with him in many cases in authenticating the hadith; not only absolute authentication, but restricted authentication because it is on the conditionThe Shaykh : of them, or on the condition of one of them, and it is known that al-Hakim, besides al-Bayhaqi, is not in the generation of al-Bukhari or Muslim so that it can be said that the chain is on the conditionThe Shaykh : of them, this can be said in the case of the chain of "Al-Musnad" of Ahmad; because he is from the generation of the shaykhs of al-Bukhari and Muslim, or for a chain from his son Abdullah if it is from his additions to his father, then the ruling at that time is that its chain is authentic on the conditionThe Shaykh : of them; because he met the shaykhs who met those who were in the generation of al-Bukhari and Muslim, so if his shaykh is like his father Ahmad or others from the shaykhsThe Shaykh : of them, this can be said if the statement is precise, as for the narration of al-Hakim, between him and the shaykh of al-Bukhari or Muslim is at least two or three people, and I mentioned in some of "Al-Silsilah al-Da'ifah" that he authenticated some hadiths on the conditionThe Shaykh : of them, and al-Hakim's shaykh is accused, and the one who accused him or weakened him is al-Hakim himself, so how can it be said in such a chain first: that it is an authentic chain, and in it is this one who is spoken about or weakened? It is more appropriate that it not be said that it is authentic on the conditionThe Shaykh : of them; because if the shaykh of the chainThe Shaykh : of them is not authentic; then it is necessary to examine the truth from any shaykh mentioned by al-Bayhaqi to the shaykhThe Shaykh : of them or one of them? This is the answer to what you asked, and perhaps I have covered the answer to all your questions.
The questioner: And al-Dhahabi's action?
The Shaykh: It is a mistake without doubt; because he contradicted, and this, unfortunately, means I imagine that al-Dhahabi's work is from the earliest of his scientific productions; because the abundance of errors we see in "His Summary" and the contradiction of his critique of some hadiths in "His Mizan" makes me prefer, without any hesitation, that this composition is from the first of his works, and this is known by everyone who has dealt with what his predecessors, the scholars and preservers, dealt with, and I have mentioned more than once that I have a book, perhaps you recall, to which I attribute much of the authentication and weakening, namely "Al-Rawd al-Nadhir", this Rawd's full title is: "Al-Rawd al-Nadhir in the Arrangement and Takhrij of al-Tabarani's Small Mu'jam", this is the first of my works in this scientific field, and the date written at the end of the book confirms that I finished it while it was two large volumes, and my age at that time was twenty-four or twenty-five, and I do not remember exactly now, but in any case in these stages, I now return to this book often to save myself some reviews; especially before the publication of indexes increased, which means the workers in the science of hadith today, and they made it easy to place such indexes, and they certainly benefited and saved a lot of time for people like us... so the book recently published in indexing the ends of hadiths.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: Do you have it? I hope you review the hadith that was in the exclusion of those who were in the Fire.
The questioner : ؟
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner : ؟
The Shaykh : He used to go out and then?
The questioner: The beginning of the hadith:.
The Shaykh: Is its beginning like this? Okay, let us attribute it to al-Bukhari's "Al-Ruqa'iq", I did not look at... see if he brought it here? I return to where we were, so this "Al-Rawd al-Nadhir" because of my need to return to it often; because it is from my first compositions or first authorship... I take upon myself many mistakes, from that - for example - I was like the masses, they trust Ibn Hibban's authentication, later I knew, first I knew "Lisan al-Mizan" by al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar, Ibn Hibban's rule in authentication, this is an example...
The questioner: In:Sunan Abi Dawud 4730Sahih (Al-Albani), Asim, Muslim, Abu Awana, Muslim, Abu Dawud, al-Bukhari, al-Tirmidhi, al-Humaydi, Asim, in several wordings.
The Shaykh: And it is good... Asim with Raki came the wording we are seeking and it is extracted; because it is thrown into my mind that Suwaid - this - ibn Sa'id was followed in this wording, and Allah knows best, so the point: this is an example from the examples that I criticize myself with myself, so if it were not for this I would have started publishing it to the people; because it has long-winded takhrij, young men... and and so on, so now we do not have such a thing; and therefore I kept it with me, and I do not allow myself or anyone else to print it; because of what is in it of errors; because it is from the first of my work in hadith. Bring it so we can see?
The questioner: In the morning I asked you... the books you have, and the manuscripts, and the things you wrote and transmitted, and the projects that can...; I mean if you... I mean.
The Shaykh: You thought and estimated then wrote.
The questioner: I mean you wrote these days, their meaning is...
The Shaykh: Yes, before this trip, yes, that's right.
The questioner: Okay; what was the result, al-Ihya or al-Islamiyyah?
The Shaykh: Al-Islamiyyah.
The questioner: Okay O Shaykh, regarding "Musnad Imam Ahmad", sometimes some hadiths are attributed to it and when reviewed they may not be found in it; so is the edition in our hands deficient...?
The Shaykh: I do not think so, and although nothing is free from that; due to the difference of narrations, but what we see is that a narration from a Companion may come incidentally in a Musnad other than his, it comes in the Musnad of another Companion, and we do not know the reason, but some scholars when they biographed al-Quta'i attributed to him some error and confusion of composition, and this is clear; because you see in - for example - some Musnads the remainder of the Musnad of Abu ibn Ka'b for example; what made it a remainder and what made it attached to his Musnad there? It appears he had special circumstances that led him to lack precision in the arrangement.
Yes.
The Shaykh: Go ahead.
The questioner: And it is regarding those whose generation was later among the authors of compiled works, such as al-Bayhaqi and al-Hakim, and also... so among their shaykhs are those who rely on chains of narration, like al-Bayhaqi and al-Hakim, in examining the men of the chain of narration; is it said that it is obligatory to examine all the men of the chain of narration, even the shaykh of...?
The Shaykh: Is it said?
The questioner: Is it said that it is necessary to examine every man in the chain of narration, even his shaykh...? Or is it said that this is done only if the chain does not pass through one of the authors of the books? Yes, or is it said: Yes, that one does not examine at all? So what is the benefit of al-Dhahabi's (may Allah have mercy on him) practice in his classification of "Al-Mustadrak" when he sometimes authenticates the shaykh of the narrator and the shaykh of his shaykh... with his narration from the ninth generation, sometimes the tenth? Is this said to be from... his own action... the rule in this, or what do you say?
The Shaykh: I say: In the case or in the chain, if it does not revolve around an author of the books of the Sunnah and a hadith from these books; then it is necessary, in this case, to study all the men of the chain; from the shaykh of al-Bayhaqi in the example, or al-Hakim...; because we have felt a lot of laxity from al-Hakim first, and from al-Dhahabi who agrees with him in many cases in authenticating the hadith; not only absolute authentication, but restricted authentication because it is on the conditionThe Shaykh : of them, or on the condition of one of them, and it is known that al-Hakim, besides al-Bayhaqi, is not in the generation of al-Bukhari or Muslim so that it can be said that the chain is on the conditionThe Shaykh : of them, this can be said in the case of the chain of "Al-Musnad" of Ahmad; because he is from the generation of the shaykhs of al-Bukhari and Muslim, or for a chain from his son Abdullah if it is from his additions to his father, then the ruling at that time is that its chain is authentic on the conditionThe Shaykh : of them; because he met the shaykhs who met those who were in the generation of al-Bukhari and Muslim, so if his shaykh is like his father Ahmad or others from the shaykhsThe Shaykh : of them, this can be said if the statement is precise, as for the narration of al-Hakim, between him and the shaykh of al-Bukhari or Muslim is at least two or three people, and I mentioned in some of "Al-Silsilah al-Da'ifah" that he authenticated some hadiths on the conditionThe Shaykh : of them, and al-Hakim's shaykh is accused, and the one who accused him or weakened him is al-Hakim himself, so how can it be said in such a chain first: that it is an authentic chain, and in it is this one who is spoken about or weakened? It is more appropriate that it not be said that it is authentic on the conditionThe Shaykh : of them; because if the shaykh of the chainThe Shaykh : of them is not authentic; then it is necessary to examine the truth from any shaykh mentioned by al-Bayhaqi to the shaykhThe Shaykh : of them or one of them? This is the answer to what you asked, and perhaps I have covered the answer to all your questions.
The questioner: And al-Dhahabi's action?
The Shaykh: It is a mistake without doubt; because he contradicted, and this, unfortunately, means I imagine that al-Dhahabi's work is from the earliest of his scientific productions; because the abundance of errors we see in "His Summary" and the contradiction of his critique of some hadiths in "His Mizan" makes me prefer, without any hesitation, that this composition is from the first of his works, and this is known by everyone who has dealt with what his predecessors, the scholars and preservers, dealt with, and I have mentioned more than once that I have a book, perhaps you recall, to which I attribute much of the authentication and weakening, namely "Al-Rawd al-Nadhir", this Rawd's full title is: "Al-Rawd al-Nadhir in the Arrangement and Takhrij of al-Tabarani's Small Mu'jam", this is the first of my works in this scientific field, and the date written at the end of the book confirms that I finished it while it was two large volumes, and my age at that time was twenty-four or twenty-five, and I do not remember exactly now, but in any case in these stages, I now return to this book often to save myself some reviews; especially before the publication of indexes increased, which means the workers in the science of hadith today, and they made it easy to place such indexes, and they certainly benefited and saved a lot of time for people like us... so the book recently published in indexing the ends of hadiths.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: Do you have it? I hope you review the hadith that was in the exclusion of those who were in the Fire.
The questioner :
Do you have hardship
هل تضارُّونThe Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner :
Do you have hardship
هل تضارُّونThe Shaykh : He used to go out and then
You are in disagreement
تضارُّونThe questioner: The beginning of the hadith:
Are you in disagreement?
هل تضارُّونThe Shaykh: Is its beginning like this? Okay, let us attribute it to al-Bukhari's "Al-Ruqa'iq", I did not look at... see if he brought it here? I return to where we were, so this "Al-Rawd al-Nadhir" because of my need to return to it often; because it is from my first compositions or first authorship... I take upon myself many mistakes, from that - for example - I was like the masses, they trust Ibn Hibban's authentication, later I knew, first I knew "Lisan al-Mizan" by al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar, Ibn Hibban's rule in authentication, this is an example...
The questioner: In:
Do you feel any trouble in seeing the sun at noon
هل تضارُّون في رؤية الشمس في الظهيرة ؟The Shaykh: And it is good... Asim with Raki came the wording we are seeking and it is extracted; because it is thrown into my mind that Suwaid - this - ibn Sa'id was followed in this wording, and Allah knows best, so the point: this is an example from the examples that I criticize myself with myself, so if it were not for this I would have started publishing it to the people; because it has long-winded takhrij, young men... and and so on, so now we do not have such a thing; and therefore I kept it with me, and I do not allow myself or anyone else to print it; because of what is in it of errors; because it is from the first of my work in hadith. Bring it so we can see?
The questioner: In the morning I asked you... the books you have, and the manuscripts, and the things you wrote and transmitted, and the projects that can...; I mean if you... I mean.
The Shaykh: You thought and estimated then wrote.
The questioner: I mean you wrote these days, their meaning is...
The Shaykh: Yes, before this trip, yes, that's right.
The questioner: Okay; what was the result, al-Ihya or al-Islamiyyah?
The Shaykh: Al-Islamiyyah.
The questioner: Okay O Shaykh, regarding "Musnad Imam Ahmad", sometimes some hadiths are attributed to it and when reviewed they may not be found in it; so is the edition in our hands deficient...?
The Shaykh: I do not think so, and although nothing is free from that; due to the difference of narrations, but what we see is that a narration from a Companion may come incidentally in a Musnad other than his, it comes in the Musnad of another Companion, and we do not know the reason, but some scholars when they biographed al-Quta'i attributed to him some error and confusion of composition, and this is clear; because you see in - for example - some Musnads the remainder of the Musnad of Abu ibn Ka'b for example; what made it a remainder and what made it attached to his Musnad there? It appears he had special circumstances that led him to lack precision in the arrangement.
Yes.
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