What is your opinion on the following research regarding one of the chains of the hadith (The two ears are part of the head)?
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The questioner : Is the time appropriate?
The Shaykh : It is always appropriate for you.
The questioner: May Allah reward you with good, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : And beware of that.
The questioner : May Allah bless you.
The Shaykh : You are welcome.
The questioner : Something has become unclear to me, my Shaykh, regarding the third chain of the hadith from the chains of Ibn Abbas.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : The chain of al-Tabarani, and you said: "And this is a sound chain, and all its narrators are trustworthy, and I do not know of any defect in it, and among the rare things is that this chain, despite its soundness, was overlooked by everyone who extracted the hadith from the later scholars." My Shaykh, something has become unclear to me.
The Shaykh: Go ahead.
The questioner : May Allah reward you. You mentioned the chain from Abdullah ibn Ahmad from his father from Waki'.
The Shaykh : Wait, by Allah, let him look at the hadith so that it is in front of me, how much is its number?
The questioner : 36, page 52.
The Shaykh : How long?
The questioner : 36, hadith number 36.
The Shaykh : The first volume?
The questioner : The first volume.
The Shaykh : The first volume of al-Sahihah. Yes, but let me settle down if you wish to raise the issue.
The questioner : Page 52.
The Shaykh : I say, you have an issue.
The questioner : May Allah reward you with good, my Shaykh. The third chain from the chains of the hadith of Ibn Abbas.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : You attributed it to al-Tabarani in al-Kabir.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : From the chain of Abdullah ibn Ahmad, he narrated to me from my father, he informed us from Waki', to the end of it. My issue is as follows: The text of the hadith is:.
The Shaykh : Wait, by Allah, a moment, because on page 53 I have numbers five, six.
The questioner : Before that, my Shaykh, page 52, the end of page 52.
The Shaykh : Ah, okay, 52, yes.
The questioner : The third chain.
The Shaykh : Okay, okay, what is the issue?
The questioner : The issue is that I have traced the hadiths from this chain.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : From the chain of Waki' from Ibn Abi Dhi'b from Qaraz, to the end of it, and I found, my Shaykh, the text of the hadith.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : .
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner, the phrase: .
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Perhaps it is a mistake by the scribe of "al-Mu'jam al-Kabir".
The Shaykh : Yes, why?
The questioner : Because he narrated it from Waki', he narrated it from Waki', three without it.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : This is first. Second, ten, and some of them are from the great trustworthy memorizers, followed Waki' from Ibn Abi Dhi'b also without mentioning the ears.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner : And Ahmad in al-Musnad narrated it from three chains from Yahya ibn Sa'id al-Qattan from Ibn Abi Dhi'b.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Without mentioning the ears, and also from Hashim ibn al-Qasim.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : And also from the chain of Yazid from Ibn Abi Dhi'b also without it.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : And al-Tayalisi narrated it in al-Musnad from Ibn Abi Dhi'b without mentioning the ears, and also Abdullah ibn al-Mubarak.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : And also Asad ibn Musa, Asad al-Sunnah, and Adam ibn Abi Iyas.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : And Khalid ibn Makhlad, and Ishaq ibn Isa, and Ishaq ibn Sulayman al-Razi.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : Yes, indeed, Ibn Abi Shaybah also narrated it from Waki', my Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : And Ibrahim ibn Musa and Ali ibn Muhammad narrated it from Waki' without mentioning the phrase "the ears".
The Shaykh : Yes, exactly.
The questioner : And I have now in front of me, I mean, every chain to which sources it is attributed.
The Shaykh : Yes, is that all?
The questioner : I have finished, my Shaykh.
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you with good.
The questioner : And to you.
The Shaykh : What is your opinion? Send me a copy of what you have so that I can look at it and study it carefully, and may Allah reward you with good.
The questioner : May Allah reward you with good, if Allah wills.
The Shaykh : And thank you.
The questioner : May Allah reward you, but excuse me, my Shaykh, this issue, how is it?
The Shaykh : This, may Allah reward you, is after I study what you mentioned with awareness, because it appears that what you are saying will lead to the answer that this hadith is mursal (disconnected) or its connection is not valid, is that not so?
The questioner : My Shaykh, the issue with me is.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : That al-Tabarani narrates it from Abdullah ibn Ahmad from Ahmad from Waki'. Ahmad narrated it from three chains in al-Musnad, other than the chain of Waki' from Ibn Abi Dhi'b.
The Shaykh : Okay, is this not a repetition of what I mentioned, may Allah reward you?
The questioner : No, my Shaykh, what occurred to my mind is that the mention of "the two ears are part of the head".
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner : Is not found at all in this hadith.
The Shaykh : And al-Daraqutni extracted it, and there is disagreement regarding its connection and disconnection, and the stronger view is that it is disconnected. What does this statement mean?
The questioner : This, my Shaykh, is al-Daraqutni from other chains, not this chain. This chain does not exist at all. Al-Daraqutni is from the first chains that you spoke about.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : As for this chain, al-Daraqutni did not extract it from it.
The Shaykh : Okay, since we want to rule that this addition in al-Tabarani, as I said in my first statement, is a mistake by the scribe.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : How do we reach this ruling?
The questioner : We look at who narrated from Waki'.
The Shaykh : This is the method of ruling on the error of the narrator, not the scribe.
The questioner : My Shaykh, the hadith, I actually did not find from whom it was narrated from the chain of al-Tabarani. If we found who narrated it from the chain of al-Tabarani and found whether it has "the two ears are part of the head" or not, the original hadith in the istinathar (cross-checking).
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you, this is understood, but I mean, I say that ruling that this addition has no basis with al-Tabarani himself, this is not possible for us unless we find a copy of al-Tabarani's Mu'jam itself where this addition does not exist.
The questioner : Or from those who narrated it from his chain without mentioning the addition, correct, my Shaykh?
The Shaykh : Yes, no, all roads lead to the mill, as they say.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : So did you find this?
The questioner : I have not found anyone who extracted it from the chain of al-Tabarani yet.
The Shaykh : Okay, so then.
The questioner : But when we find, for example, three who narrated it from other than this chain from Waki' without this addition, ten.
The Shaykh : It is ruled as shadh (anomalous).
The questioner : It is ruled as shadh (anomalous).
The Shaykh : Yes, and it is not ruled as inserted, whether by mistake or intentionally, in "al-Mu'jam al-Kabir of al-Tabarani".
The questioner : Yes, may Allah reward you with good, my Shaykh.
The Shaykh : In any case, we hope to see what you mentioned in a copy.
The questioner : If Allah wills.
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you with good.
The questioner : And you, my Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Welcome.
The questioner : May Allah reward you with good, peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings.
The Shaykh : It is always appropriate for you.
The questioner: May Allah reward you with good, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : And beware of that.
The questioner : May Allah bless you.
The Shaykh : You are welcome.
The questioner : Something has become unclear to me, my Shaykh, regarding the third chain of the hadith from the chains of Ibn Abbas.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : The chain of al-Tabarani, and you said: "And this is a sound chain, and all its narrators are trustworthy, and I do not know of any defect in it, and among the rare things is that this chain, despite its soundness, was overlooked by everyone who extracted the hadith from the later scholars." My Shaykh, something has become unclear to me.
The Shaykh: Go ahead.
The questioner : May Allah reward you. You mentioned the chain from Abdullah ibn Ahmad from his father from Waki'.
The Shaykh : Wait, by Allah, let him look at the hadith so that it is in front of me, how much is its number?
The questioner : 36, page 52.
The Shaykh : How long?
The questioner : 36, hadith number 36.
The Shaykh : The first volume?
The questioner : The first volume.
The Shaykh : The first volume of al-Sahihah. Yes, but let me settle down if you wish to raise the issue.
The questioner : Page 52.
The Shaykh : I say, you have an issue.
The questioner : May Allah reward you with good, my Shaykh. The third chain from the chains of the hadith of Ibn Abbas.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : You attributed it to al-Tabarani in al-Kabir.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : From the chain of Abdullah ibn Ahmad, he narrated to me from my father, he informed us from Waki', to the end of it. My issue is as follows: The text of the hadith is:
Cross-check twice with the two versions
استنثروا مرَّتين بالغتينThe Shaykh : Wait, by Allah, a moment, because on page 53 I have numbers five, six.
The questioner : Before that, my Shaykh, page 52, the end of page 52.
The Shaykh : Ah, okay, 52, yes.
The questioner : The third chain.
The Shaykh : Okay, okay, what is the issue?
The questioner : The issue is that I have traced the hadiths from this chain.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : From the chain of Waki' from Ibn Abi Dhi'b from Qaraz, to the end of it, and I found, my Shaykh, the text of the hadith.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner :
Cross-check twice with the two versions
استنثروا مرَّتين بالغتينThe Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner
And the two ears are part of the head
والأذنان من الرأسAnd the two ears are part of the head
والأذنان من الرأسThe Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Perhaps it is a mistake by the scribe of "al-Mu'jam al-Kabir".
The Shaykh : Yes, why?
The questioner : Because he narrated it from Waki', he narrated it from Waki', three without it.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : This is first. Second, ten, and some of them are from the great trustworthy memorizers, followed Waki' from Ibn Abi Dhi'b also without mentioning the ears.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner : And Ahmad in al-Musnad narrated it from three chains from Yahya ibn Sa'id al-Qattan from Ibn Abi Dhi'b.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Without mentioning the ears, and also from Hashim ibn al-Qasim.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : And also from the chain of Yazid from Ibn Abi Dhi'b also without it.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : And al-Tayalisi narrated it in al-Musnad from Ibn Abi Dhi'b without mentioning the ears, and also Abdullah ibn al-Mubarak.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : And also Asad ibn Musa, Asad al-Sunnah, and Adam ibn Abi Iyas.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : And Khalid ibn Makhlad, and Ishaq ibn Isa, and Ishaq ibn Sulayman al-Razi.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : Yes, indeed, Ibn Abi Shaybah also narrated it from Waki', my Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : And Ibrahim ibn Musa and Ali ibn Muhammad narrated it from Waki' without mentioning the phrase "the ears".
The Shaykh : Yes, exactly.
The questioner : And I have now in front of me, I mean, every chain to which sources it is attributed.
The Shaykh : Yes, is that all?
The questioner : I have finished, my Shaykh.
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you with good.
The questioner : And to you.
The Shaykh : What is your opinion? Send me a copy of what you have so that I can look at it and study it carefully, and may Allah reward you with good.
The questioner : May Allah reward you with good, if Allah wills.
The Shaykh : And thank you.
The questioner : May Allah reward you, but excuse me, my Shaykh, this issue, how is it?
The Shaykh : This, may Allah reward you, is after I study what you mentioned with awareness, because it appears that what you are saying will lead to the answer that this hadith is mursal (disconnected) or its connection is not valid, is that not so?
The questioner : My Shaykh, the issue with me is.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : That al-Tabarani narrates it from Abdullah ibn Ahmad from Ahmad from Waki'. Ahmad narrated it from three chains in al-Musnad, other than the chain of Waki' from Ibn Abi Dhi'b.
The Shaykh : Okay, is this not a repetition of what I mentioned, may Allah reward you?
The questioner : No, my Shaykh, what occurred to my mind is that the mention of "the two ears are part of the head".
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner : Is not found at all in this hadith.
The Shaykh : And al-Daraqutni extracted it, and there is disagreement regarding its connection and disconnection, and the stronger view is that it is disconnected. What does this statement mean?
The questioner : This, my Shaykh, is al-Daraqutni from other chains, not this chain. This chain does not exist at all. Al-Daraqutni is from the first chains that you spoke about.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : As for this chain, al-Daraqutni did not extract it from it.
The Shaykh : Okay, since we want to rule that this addition in al-Tabarani, as I said in my first statement, is a mistake by the scribe.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : How do we reach this ruling?
The questioner : We look at who narrated from Waki'.
The Shaykh : This is the method of ruling on the error of the narrator, not the scribe.
The questioner : My Shaykh, the hadith, I actually did not find from whom it was narrated from the chain of al-Tabarani. If we found who narrated it from the chain of al-Tabarani and found whether it has "the two ears are part of the head" or not, the original hadith in the istinathar (cross-checking).
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you, this is understood, but I mean, I say that ruling that this addition has no basis with al-Tabarani himself, this is not possible for us unless we find a copy of al-Tabarani's Mu'jam itself where this addition does not exist.
The questioner : Or from those who narrated it from his chain without mentioning the addition, correct, my Shaykh?
The Shaykh : Yes, no, all roads lead to the mill, as they say.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : So did you find this?
The questioner : I have not found anyone who extracted it from the chain of al-Tabarani yet.
The Shaykh : Okay, so then.
The questioner : But when we find, for example, three who narrated it from other than this chain from Waki' without this addition, ten.
The Shaykh : It is ruled as shadh (anomalous).
The questioner : It is ruled as shadh (anomalous).
The Shaykh : Yes, and it is not ruled as inserted, whether by mistake or intentionally, in "al-Mu'jam al-Kabir of al-Tabarani".
The questioner : Yes, may Allah reward you with good, my Shaykh.
The Shaykh : In any case, we hope to see what you mentioned in a copy.
The questioner : If Allah wills.
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you with good.
The questioner : And you, my Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Welcome.
The questioner : May Allah reward you with good, peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings.
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