Return to the discussion: By what does a person become a Muslim?
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The questioner : ... the discussion is that permissibility is what ... in my view ... .
The Shaykh: Go ahead.
The questioner : By what does a person become a Muslim?
The Shaykh : By what does he become a Muslim?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : That he testifies that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and that he establishes the prayer, up to the five known pillars in the authentic hadith.
The questioner : That he testifies that there is no god but Allah; what is the meaning of "there is no god but Allah"?
The Shaykh : There is no deity worthy of worship except Allah.
The questioner : So on this basis, what ... and what knowledge ... .
The Shaykh : ... .
The questioner : No, as you assumed, if the Islamic ruling were found ... .
The Shaykh : We, after ... faith and Islam, and that faith is an outward thing.
The questioner : I have a question here.
The Shaykh : No, no, but ... Islam is an outward thing, so he said: I testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah; he became a Muslim, he is in the ruling as he (peace be upon him) said:, if it also appears from him, if something appears from him that contradicts this word and the proof is established against him that what appeared from him contradicts his testimony, then he is not a Muslim.
The questioner : I came to him and asked him about the meaning of ... "there is no god but Allah," but he did not know and did not understand what the meaning of "there is no god but Allah" is.
The Shaykh : This person is not a believer, but he is a Muslim.
The questioner : What is the evidence?
The Shaykh : His testimony.
The questioner : What is the evidence that his testimony enters him into Islam while he does not understand?
The Shaykh : This person is a Muslim who has been entered into Islam, but it will not save him with Allah, O professor, because he did not understand the faith that ... .
The questioner : So what is the meaning of Islam?
The Shaykh : Islam is that he testifies that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah; meaning Islam is an outward thing, Islam is submission.
The questioner : Submission.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : In the technical legal sense?
The Shaykh : It is that he testifies that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, as in the authentic hadith.
The questioner : As the scholars said, meaning what? The hadith is undoubtedly authentic in this, but do you have a definition? Do you have a definition of Islam? ... .
The Shaykh : Its condition is submission; what do you mean by definition then?
The questioner : I mean I asked you for the linguistic definition and you told me: submission, obedience.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : You gave to the one who uttered "there is no god but Allah" without obedience up to now.
The Shaykh : How without obedience?
The questioner : Because you said: as long as he uttered "there is no god but Allah," he became a Muslim.
The Shaykh : But I continued the speech, O professor.
The questioner : I say a second time ... .
The Shaykh : ... so if it appears from him, not ... something appears from him that contradicts the reality of this testimony, then he is not a Muslim; it contradicts the reality of this testimony legally, then he is not a Muslim; what is in this?
The questioner : In what I know, if ... the word Islam by any ... .
The Shaykh : Regarding ... it is correct, but this is not relevant to the topic, O professor; we are speaking in terms of the technical usage among scholars regarding salvation with Allah (Mighty and Majestic), so it is faith, and regarding salvation from being killed by the sword, it is Islam, but when Allah mentions Islam, He means Islam accompanied by faith.
The questioner : We have ... it is possible ... but the one who used to utter "there is no god but Allah" ... the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him), the Arab and the non-Arab understand its meaning, and for this reason ... that he should say it; and for this reason he who said ... said.
The Shaykh : We know this, as you know.
The questioner : Excellent.
The Shaykh : But ... what is your opinion about it?
The questioner : Repeating it? It is said to him ... .
The Shaykh : This is it, and this is what we say.
The questioner : If you say this, in reality now, then the one who utters it from among the people and it is as usual?
The Shaykh : But[Al-Ghashiyah 88:22] .
The questioner : I am not in control over them.
The Shaykh : ... your duty if you want to advise them is to clarify to them the reality of their matter ... something you do not understand the meaning of, but you disbelieve in it.
The questioner : I did not clarify it to them.
The Shaykh : You did not clarify it to them!!
The questioner : Because I want to withdraw and learn ... .
The Shaykh : No, why did you not clarify it to them?
The questioner : Because I want to increase in knowledge and education ... .
The Shaykh: Go ahead.
The questioner : By what does a person become a Muslim?
The Shaykh : By what does he become a Muslim?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : That he testifies that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and that he establishes the prayer, up to the five known pillars in the authentic hadith.
The questioner : That he testifies that there is no god but Allah; what is the meaning of "there is no god but Allah"?
The Shaykh : There is no deity worthy of worship except Allah.
The questioner : So on this basis, what ... and what knowledge ... .
The Shaykh : ... .
The questioner : No, as you assumed, if the Islamic ruling were found ... .
The Shaykh : We, after ... faith and Islam, and that faith is an outward thing.
The questioner : I have a question here.
The Shaykh : No, no, but ... Islam is an outward thing, so he said: I testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah; he became a Muslim, he is in the ruling as he (peace be upon him) said:
He has what we have, and he is bound by what we are bound by.
له ما لنا ، وعليه ما عليناThe questioner : I came to him and asked him about the meaning of ... "there is no god but Allah," but he did not know and did not understand what the meaning of "there is no god but Allah" is.
The Shaykh : This person is not a believer, but he is a Muslim.
The questioner : What is the evidence?
The Shaykh : His testimony.
The questioner : What is the evidence that his testimony enters him into Islam while he does not understand?
The Shaykh : This person is a Muslim who has been entered into Islam, but it will not save him with Allah, O professor, because he did not understand the faith that ... .
The questioner : So what is the meaning of Islam?
The Shaykh : Islam is that he testifies that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah; meaning Islam is an outward thing, Islam is submission.
The questioner : Submission.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : In the technical legal sense?
The Shaykh : It is that he testifies that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, as in the authentic hadith.
The questioner : As the scholars said, meaning what? The hadith is undoubtedly authentic in this, but do you have a definition? Do you have a definition of Islam? ... .
The Shaykh : Its condition is submission; what do you mean by definition then?
The questioner : I mean I asked you for the linguistic definition and you told me: submission, obedience.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : You gave to the one who uttered "there is no god but Allah" without obedience up to now.
The Shaykh : How without obedience?
The questioner : Because you said: as long as he uttered "there is no god but Allah," he became a Muslim.
The Shaykh : But I continued the speech, O professor.
The questioner : I say a second time ... .
The Shaykh : ... so if it appears from him, not ... something appears from him that contradicts the reality of this testimony, then he is not a Muslim; it contradicts the reality of this testimony legally, then he is not a Muslim; what is in this?
The questioner : In what I know, if ... the word Islam by any ... .
The Shaykh : Regarding ... it is correct, but this is not relevant to the topic, O professor; we are speaking in terms of the technical usage among scholars regarding salvation with Allah (Mighty and Majestic), so it is faith, and regarding salvation from being killed by the sword, it is Islam, but when Allah mentions Islam, He means Islam accompanied by faith.
The questioner : We have ... it is possible ... but the one who used to utter "there is no god but Allah" ... the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him), the Arab and the non-Arab understand its meaning, and for this reason ... that he should say it; and for this reason he who said ... said.
The Shaykh : We know this, as you know.
The questioner : Excellent.
The Shaykh : But ... what is your opinion about it?
The questioner : Repeating it? It is said to him ... .
The Shaykh : This is it, and this is what we say.
The questioner : If you say this, in reality now, then the one who utters it from among the people and it is as usual?
The Shaykh : But
You are not over them a controller.
لَسْتَ عَلَيْهِمْ بِمُصَيْطِرٍThe questioner : I am not in control over them.
The Shaykh : ... your duty if you want to advise them is to clarify to them the reality of their matter ... something you do not understand the meaning of, but you disbelieve in it.
The questioner : I did not clarify it to them.
The Shaykh : You did not clarify it to them!!
The questioner : Because I want to withdraw and learn ... .
The Shaykh : No, why did you not clarify it to them?
The questioner : Because I want to increase in knowledge and education ... .
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