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﴿ فَاسْأَلُوا أَهْلَ الذِّكْرِ إِن كُنتُمْ لَا تَعْلَمُونَ ﴾

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How to respond to those who cite the hadith: “Do you see this woman throwing her child into the fire?” as evidence for the non-permanence of the Fire?

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Eid Abbasi : Yes, some people object to the issue of the permanence of the Fire using a hadith where the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) saw a woman with a child, a boy or a girl...
Do you see this one throwing her child into the Fire? أترون هذا تُلقي ولدها في النار ؟
. They said: No, O Messenger of Allah. So they argue by analogy that the created being, if not... a fortiori; how do we respond to him?

The Shaykh: There is a verse in the Qur'an containing a word from the words of the hadith you mention...? It is a bit difficult, and the first letter in it is a R; meaning, to help you.

The questioner: But I didn't notice what the...

Eid Abbasi: About the hadith... about this topic?

The Shaykh : Yes?

Eid Abbasi: About the topic... Allah (Mighty and Majestic)?

The Shaykh: What did you ask just now? Let him understand the question again.

The questioner: I didn't notice.

Eid Abbasi : That some people object with this hadith and cite it as evidence for the complete annihilation of the Fire, the hadith:
Do you see this one throwing her child into the Fire?! Allah is more merciful to His servant أرأيتم هذه تُلقي ولدَها في النار ؟! لله أرحم بعبده
...?

The Shaykh: Do you know the question now? Do you know what the answer was? Do you know what?

The questioner: But I didn't know the answer.

The Shaykh: Of course.

Eid Abbasi: In the mercy of Allah
I will record it فَسَأَكْتُبُهَا
.

The Shaykh: Well done... today... yes
And My mercy وَرَحْمَتِي
.

Eid Abbasi :
encompasses all things." So I will decree it [especially] for those وَسِعَتْ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ فَسَأَكْتُبُهَا لِلَّذِينَ
[Al-A'raf 7:156]
.

The Shaykh: ... So interpret the hadith with the verse.

The questioner: In... school students and others sit in the mosque.

Eid Abbasi: Of course.
...

The questioner :
Indeed, the vengeance of your Lord is severe. إِنَّ بَطْشَ رَبِّكَ لَشَدِيدٌ
[Al-Buruj 85:12]
؟

The Shaykh : That He did not say
Allah is more merciful to His slaves than this lady to her son. لله أرحم بعباده من هذه بولدها
Sahih al-Bukhari 5999
, okay; to all His servants, even Iblis?

Eid Abbasi: It is that woman and her child who would enter... righteous.

The Shaykh : But she is merciful to her child, but Allah is more merciful to His servants, and here you can know the answer from the hadith itself
to His servants بعباده
, who are His servants?

The questioner: Those who are characterized by worship.

The Shaykh : It would be.

Eid Abbasi: Meaning, some distinguish and say: this ruling says the word "His servants" was mentioned in the Qur'an and Sunnah for those pleased with and servants in general, so this...

The Shaykh: No, it is not, it is not consistent.

Eid Abbasi: It is not consistent.

The questioner: Sometimes it is like that.

The Shaykh
O My servants, all of you are astray except for those I have guided, so seek guidance of Me and I shall guide you يا عبادي ، كلُّكم ضالٌّ إلا مَن هديتُه ، فاستهدوني أهدِكُم
Sahih Muslim 2577a
to the end of the hadith.

Eid Abbasi: In
And the servants of the Most Merciful وَعِبَادُ الرَّحْمَنِ
.

The questioner: It is specific.

Eid Abbasi: You hit
word has already preceded for Our servants, the messengers, كَلِمَتُنَا لِعِبَادِنَا الْمُرْسَلِينَ
[As-Saffat 37:171]
.

The Shaykh: In the Qur'an there are verses - also - that do not mean the believing servants, yes, not all of them bring it specifically... we have witnessed for you a testimony, do not lose it for us.
Source www.al-albany.com

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