Discussions interspersed with talk about al-Ghamari and some of his writings.

Abu Malik: This is in, I wrote in the weekly articles, so in one of them a doctor... wrote: "We have no refuge but you, O Messenger of Allah, except for your intercession, O Messenger of Allah," and he spoke words of truth; the man is, I mean, a modern man, and his specialization is even English literature.

The Shaykh : Yes.
Abu Malik: Yes, that is right.

The Shaykh: It will drown him further in misguidance.
Abu Malik: Yes, but the man, for the sake of truth, when I read his article, it was all from these mixed sayings, i.e., deception and lack of clarity, and these generalizations that those writers who claim to protect the call of Islam produce.

The Shaykh : Yes.
Abu Malik: So I actually found it an opportunity, I said, of course, this is an opportunity to write about intercession.

The Shaykh: What is the opportunity?
Abu Malik: To write on this subject, I mean, so I replied to him, yes, we have no refuge except for the intercession of the Messenger of Allah, yes, and I began to elaborate and speak about intercession, and I spoke and... and I replied to him, of course, a gentle reply, I mean, I wanted to clarify, I said that this was, I mean, a good thing for me, there was in his speech, I mean.
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Abu Malik: ... a writer, not in defense of the Salafiyyah... .

Another questioner : ... .
Abu Malik: I have it, yes, I have it.

Another questioner: This is the new one.
Abu Malik: I am not asking about this.

The Shaykh : ... .
Abu Malik: No, I have this one, but I... .

Another questioner : ... .

Another questioner : ... .
Abu Malik: No, no, no, I have it in the office, as for him... he asks about this in... when I wrote "not in defense of the Salafiyyah, but rather in defense of it," the point is this is a reply, I mean, a reply.

The Shaykh : ... .
Abu Malik: ... and overstepping.

The Shaykh : And where?
Abu Malik: There is a newspaper.

The Shaykh: The same newspaper.
Abu Malik: The same newspaper, but in a different section, not in the place where I usually publish my article, because my article has a special page where it can be written, and it is referred to on the first page in the article, I mean, so "Ali" replied to him with a long reply, I mean, a solid scholarly one, he tracked, I mean, all his deals and his mistakes, it is, of course, it needs the good reader who knows the truth from falsehood, just by reading the article he judges it, except that "Ali" was very precise, and he extracted all his errors in this short article that he wrote, and he wrote a reply, I mean, its substance is perhaps twenty pages, but... .

Another questioner: The newspaper.
Abu Malik: I write in the newspaper.

The Shaykh: Yes.
Abu Malik: I said later it would be suitable to be a small thesis... I was not able to write less than this... the article that, I mean, the way... is written for the general public, I mean, these are actually special, yes.
So the point is that "Ali," this boy who is "Hatem al-Saffar," this is now between the Ghamariyyah and the Habashiyah, some of these young men coming from Lebanon gathered around each other... they live... and he went and stayed with al-Ghamari in Morocco for a period of about two weeks, as I learned, he came to Professor Ahmad Abu Munir, I told him this... .

The Shaykh: ... Professor Ahmad?
Abu Malik: No, he came, I mean, the purpose is to cause confusion, an empty-headed boy, I mean, and of the things that the professor told him, he said to him: By Allah, it is actually good, it is good that there be, I mean... knowledge and meaning, and there is no objection that there be disagreement, he said: This is the nature of things, that there be disagreement among students of knowledge, but it is absolutely not a sin that there be foolishness among students of knowledge, he speaks... .
Abu Malik: ...

Another questioner: This is a madman, this needs to be beaten, this is true, he needs to be beaten!

The Shaykh: This seems to be, I mean, taking support from "Abdullah al-Ghamari"... .
Abu Malik: As if.

The Shaykh: And his love of showing off.
Abu Malik: Yes, that is right.

The Shaykh : Yes.
Abu Malik: This did not benefit me.

The Shaykh: Yes.
Abu Malik: ...

The Shaykh: Allahu Akbar! This is what he called "The Veiling Dawn for the Rulings of the Traveler's Prayer," a thesis that is not perhaps less than fifty pages and medium size, very contradictory speech, I mean, what he establishes in one place he negates in another place, and he does not know and does not feel, he came to the verse of His saying - Exalted is He - : , he claimed that the original prayer of travel, as previously explained, was prescribed in full, then the shortening came, and the hadith of A'isha says, as we know, that "it was prescribed as two rak'ahs, two rak'ahs, then it was increased in travel and confirmed in residence," he claims that the verse is contrary to the hadith of Lady A'isha, I said to him in my reply to him, the verse establishes the shortening, but when was this shortening? The verse does not address it, and Lady A'isha clarifies that the original prayer was prescribed as two rak'ahs, and then it was increased in travel, this increase is what the Quran referred to as shortening, so how are you striking the hadith of A'isha with such a verse? I mean, the speech is a strange and very odd contradiction, and likewise he strikes the hadith of Lady A'isha with the hadith: , he says: The hadith of A'isha is against this hadith, and this hadith is authentic, where is the contradiction? A'isha says: , this increase that was increased was shortened by the text of the hadith and the verse, and she says in a narration in "Sahih al-Bukhari" that the Messenger of Allah continued to pray two rak'ahs, two rak'ahs, in travel and in residence until he came to Medina, there the prayer of residence was increased, this increase that was increased in the prayer of residence after thirteen years, as is known, the verse of shortening came down after; because it came down in Medina, so there is absolutely no contradiction between the verse and the hadith on one hand, and between them and the hadith of A'isha on the other hand.
Abu Malik: Contradiction.

The Shaykh: A rotten brain, Subhan Allah!! And how many such examples he has! Subhan Allah!
Abu Malik: Yes, that is right.

The Shaykh : A rotting box, glory be to Allah! And how many examples like this he has! Glory be to Allah!
And then he is harsh-tongued, especially against Ibn Taymiyyah, and against the scholars in general, but in varying degrees... .
Abu Malik: I mean, I do not know, this Ibn Taymiyyah - Subhan Allah! - what did he do to these people?!

The Shaykh: Allah is the Greatest!
Abu Malik: By Allah, I do not know.

The Shaykh: He did what the Messenger did to the disbelievers; he called them to the truth, so they refused, and they opposed him.
I met Abdullah once in Tangier, and some of our brothers who were previously among his brothers, the brothers of this al-Ghamari, deceived him until they gathered us in a session, and they wanted that.
Abu Malik: They hold a debate.

The Shaykh: In the Shami expression, "they hang it between us," he said: I did not come for this, so he refused to enter into a research or a discussion!
Abu Malik: ... they will involve us.

Another questioner: He shortened it.