Discussion of "Abdullah al-Ghamari" regarding his weakening of hadiths and his ruling on some of them as anomalous.

The Shaykh : Recently, just yesterday, I finished tracing a hadith. The original of this hadith is established in "the two Sahihs." It is the well-known, famous hadith of Aisha: . This Shaykh, "Abdullah al-Ghamari," this wicked man, is the first person to declare in writing that this is an anomalous, weak hadith. I wish he had stuck to the method of the hadith scholars, saying that so-and-so deviated from the majority. The whole matter is that this hadith contradicts the Qur'an and contradicts the established hadiths of the Messenger (peace be upon him).
-- The questioner : Oh Allah, oh Shaykh... . --

The Shaykh : He collected five hadiths. In the hadith of Jibril (peace be upon him) praying with the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) as imam in Makkah, this hadith is narrated in "the two Sahihs" in brief, stating that he prayed the five prayers with him, from the hadith of Abu Mas'ud al-Badri. It is narrated in "Sunan Abu Dawud" with a good chain, detailing the prayers he prayed with him as imam. Then hadiths followed in this manner, mentioning Jibril's prayer with the Messenger (peace be upon him) without specifying the number of rak'ahs for Dhuhr, 'Asr, and 'Isha. What did this man, "al-Ghamari," do? He gathered hadiths from here and there, explicitly stating that Jibril (peace be upon him) in that incident prayed Dhuhr, 'Asr, and 'Isha as four rak'ahs each; that is, in Makkah.

The questioner : Even Maghrib?

The Shaykh : No, no, I say: Dhuhr, 'Asr, and 'Isha. He brings five hadiths, all of which explicitly state that Jibril prayed these three prayers as four rak'ahs each. Then he uses the hadith of al-Bukhari from Aisha to strike against these hadiths. There, you say: "The prayer was prescribed as two rak'ahs, two rak'ahs." He uses it to establish that it was prescribed as four rak'ahs, four rak'ahs.

The questioner : It contradicts the hadith of al-Bukhari.

The Shaykh : Yes?

The questioner : It contradicts.
Another questioner: It contradicts the hadith of al-Bukhari.

The Shaykh : When I first read these hadiths, by Allah, I was surprised by them; because what is in my mind is this well-known hadith in "Sahih al-Bukhari" and others. How is this four rak'ahs, four rak'ahs? The thing that motivated me and pushed me to trace the routes of these five hadiths is that he is a very wicked, scheming, and deceptive man toward the readers, bit by bit... I have not seen anyone greater than him except the Shi'ah, and especially among them "Abd al-Husayn," this Lebanese 'Amili.
The first hadith he brought, number one, he writes it in French; because the stamp of the letter is there. He brought it from "Musnad Ishaq ibn Rahawayh." He says: with a chain meeting the conditions of the two Shaykhs. I do not say it is upon him, even though he means it. He does not say: with a sound chain meeting the conditions of the two Shaykhs.

The questioner : With a chain.

The Shaykh : With a chain meeting the conditions of the two Shaykhs.

The questioner : Does he have this?

The Shaykh : Yes, indeed. But there is no difference between saying: sound meeting the conditions of the two Shaykhs, or meeting the conditions of the two Shaykhs. The wicked one, in his scheming, says: with a chain meeting the conditions of the two Shaykhs, from Abu Bakr ibn Muhammad ibn 'Amr ibn Hazm, from Abu Mas'ud al-Ansari al-Badri. Abu Mas'ud is a well-known Companion, and he mentions Jibril's imamate with the Messenger and the quadrupling of the three prayers. I wondered where they got it from? Ishaq ibn Rahawayh's "Musnad" is lost. Now, after it became easy for many universities to obtain copies of some manuscripts, I have a piece of this Musnad. But I do not think he transmitted it directly. Then I confirmed that when I found the hadith = -- thank you -- = when I found the hadith, he had transmitted it word for word from "Nasb al-Ra'yah li-Ahadith al-Hidayah" by al-Hafiz al-Zayla'i; because the hadith is in "al-Matalib al-'Aliyah fi Zawa'id al-Masanid al-'Asharah" by al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar al-'Asqalani. So it differs slightly in some letters that do not change the meaning between his wording in "Nasb al-Ra'yah" and his wording in "al-Matalib al-'Aliyah." So it became apparent to me that he took it from al-Zayla'i. But al-Zayla'i transmitted from al-Hafiz al-Bayhaqi that this chain is broken between Abu Bakr and Abu Mas'ud. And indeed, it is in "Sahih" al-Bukhari -- and I say now: and Muslim as well -- they agreed on narrating the hadith through the route of this Abu Bakr from Bashir ibn Abu Mas'ud al-Ansari from his father, with that brief wording in which it states that he prayed the five prayers with him.
Abu Malik: Without detail.

The Shaykh : Without detail.
Abu Malik: That they were four rak'ahs each.

The Shaykh : Ah, whereas this one narrated the detail and is broken between Abu Bakr and Abu Mas'ud. Despite that, he deceived the readers and said: "with a chain meeting the conditions of the two Shaykhs." He is a wicked truth-teller, but he means what he says. The chain meets the conditions of the two Shaykhs up to Abu Bakr, but he does not care to clarify the truth that there is a break here, deceiving the readers.
Abu Malik: ...

The Shaykh : I traced the five hadiths and refuted him in about twenty-two pages only, to prove the validity of the hadith of the Lady Aisha. The five hadiths followed him.
Abu Malik: ... the fourth ... .

The Shaykh : No, the fourth is the valid fourth ... oh brothers.

The questioner : I do not mean "al-Da'ifah."

The Shaykh : No, he -- may Allah bless you -- this is from the share of "al-Sahihah"; because the hadith of the Lady Aisha is valid. And I, during the tracing of this hadith, yes, this man and his deception introduced me to it.

The questioner : So the fifth has to be.

The Shaykh : It is in the fifth volume; no, more; because it is the number, yes, the number: .

The questioner : It means the third.

The Shaykh : The point -- oh professor -- is: the five hadiths are actually four, but he, in his scheming, made them five. What did he do? Number three is through so-and-so from al-Hasan al-Basri. Number five is through another person from al-Hasan al-Basri. Number three and number five are from al-Hasan al-Basri as mursal. This is considered one hadith.

The questioner : He made them two.

The Shaykh : I mean, now, if Abu Hurayrah has routes to Abu Hurayrah, it is one hadith. So, in his deception of people, number one, two, three, four, five. All these hadiths explicitly state that he prayed four rak'ahs, four rak'ahs. So I traced these hadiths, and by the grace of Allah, I did not find in them a hadith that deserves validation. Rather, they are either mursal, and among the mursalat of al-Hasan al-Basri, about which al-Hafiz al-'Iraqi says they are like the wind: "The mursalat of al-Hasan al-Basri are like the wind, they have no value." And the others have clear, exposed defects. Then I opposed the four hadiths, after clarifying their weakness, with seven valid hadiths, none of which mention the quadrupling. None of them mention the quadrupling. So these hadiths that he made four are denounced hadiths; because they added to the text of the valid hadiths. Among them is the hadith of "the two Sahihs" from Abu Mas'ud al-Badri that he prayed five prayers without specifying the number of rak'ahs. And the hadith of Abu Dawud detailed that he prayed Maghrib and prayed Fajr and prayed the rest of the prayers without numbers, also without numbers.
The point: So this wicked man makes these weak hadiths the basis and weakens the agreed-upon hadith with them.

The questioner : I seek refuge in Allah!

The Shaykh : One of the most wicked things possible!