Discussion on the ruling of a woman uncovering her face?
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The Shaykh: It is that your topic was not what you were forced into when you were afflicted. You mentioned a third state, and at times you called it a third ruling, but neither a state nor a ruling comes to mind when you mentioned the verse: [Al-Ahzab 33:59] It was that your intention was one thing, and it turned into another. So we do not restrict you or trouble you. What was your intention in mentioning this verse?
The student: The face covering.
The Shaykh: Good, it is known. The face covering, what do you mean? Do you mean that the group argues with the verse regarding the face covering?
The student: Yes, Shaykh.
The Shaykh: I do not think a person would adopt the argument with this verse for the face covering and stand by this argument at the end of the research. Whoever holds that view, let him try his luck. Whoever holds that view, whether it is you or someone else, let him say that the verse means the face covering. Let us do a practical lesson for your sake, so that you are at ease, and so that we do not mean that we diverted you from the goal you were heading toward to something you came to against your will, and then you retreated from it. So, do you adopt the view that the verse indicates the face covering?
The student : Yes, Shaykh.
The Shaykh: Very good. The first one to refute this is you. Now, what is the jilbab? Linguistically and in legal terminology, what is the jilbab?
The student: What a woman covers her face and head with.
The Shaykh: Only? Do not fall into...
The student: I mean, it starts.
The Shaykh: In another trap.
The student: It starts covering her body from her head, then.
The Shaykh: Her whole body. So, let us assume that the khimar on your head is that jilbab which is ample down to the soles of the feet. Okay, cover. Let us see. You now have your face and your hands with this.
The student: And the hands.
The Shaykh: Keep it on your face now.
The student: I mean, for example, by doing this, my Shaykh.
The Shaykh: Come on, all of it.
The student: Keep it, finish.
The Shaykh: Keep it, keep it.
The student: Cover. Consider that I have covered.
The Shaykh: In the gathering, are you satisfied? You cover your face with the jilbab, what about the street? Consider, O you who have eyes. Now, if you were at the door of this farm and entered while covering your face with this jilbab, can you walk five steps? Why do you not speak?
The student: I mean, one might find a way so that people can see in it.
The Shaykh: We have rejected it, we have rejected it, we have rejected it.
The student: I mean, this is what is placed on the face, my Shaykh.
The Shaykh: We have rejected it, my brother. May Allah guide you.
The student: I cannot cut it, it needs a trim.
The Shaykh: So, the jilbab, hehe. So, the jilbab... and the one mentioned in the verse. Do you want to add to the jilbab mentioned in the verse additions from yourselves? This is where the scissors work. This is what is intended by the jilbab mentioned in the verse. Actually, I entered into an experience similar to this one, but it was more successful than yours, because your luck is good, mine.
The student : ... our Shaykh.
The Shaykh: May Allah preserve you. I was in a gathering in a room. Now, there is no space. If we told you to walk, you could not walk.
The student: Of course.
The Shaykh: The man stood up, I stood up... and it was hotter. He said: You are saying the woman's face is not 'awrah, and Allah says in the verse. I did this experiment with him. He was wearing the ghutrah, the one they call the red one, exactly. I said to him: Assume this is a jilbab. He said: ... He was standing like this and very enthusiastic. I said to him: Cover, let us see how? He covered. I said to him: Come forward to me. He said: I cannot. It is five... steps in the room. He said: I cannot. I said: O people, fear Allah. If a woman goes out of her home, her Lord commands her to place the jilbab on her body. How do you impose on her to cover her face? He could not do it except after covering his face, he met you and your friend. We said: Let us open a hole. Hehe, yes. I said to him: Where did you get this hole from? The verse says jilbab, and you say the jilbab that covers the face. This is not possible, my brother.
The student: Okay, the verse is in al-Nur, my Shaykh.
Another student: One by one, one by one.
The Shaykh: One by one, one by one. Yes, may Allah bless you. One by one, one by one.
The questioner: ... . It fell to the ground, I mean, what.
The student: Unplug the recorder... .
Another student: ... I agree with the Shaykh's statement.
Another student: My Shaykh, allow us... .
The Shaykh: Please... .
The student: I know, my Shaykh.
to bring down over themselves [part] of their outer garments
يُدْنِينَ عَلَيْهِنَّ مِنْ جَلَابِيبِهِنَّThe student: The face covering.
The Shaykh: Good, it is known. The face covering, what do you mean? Do you mean that the group argues with the verse regarding the face covering?
The student: Yes, Shaykh.
The Shaykh: I do not think a person would adopt the argument with this verse for the face covering and stand by this argument at the end of the research. Whoever holds that view, let him try his luck. Whoever holds that view, whether it is you or someone else, let him say that the verse means the face covering. Let us do a practical lesson for your sake, so that you are at ease, and so that we do not mean that we diverted you from the goal you were heading toward to something you came to against your will, and then you retreated from it. So, do you adopt the view that the verse indicates the face covering?
The student : Yes, Shaykh.
The Shaykh: Very good. The first one to refute this is you. Now, what is the jilbab? Linguistically and in legal terminology, what is the jilbab?
The student: What a woman covers her face and head with.
The Shaykh: Only? Do not fall into...
The student: I mean, it starts.
The Shaykh: In another trap.
The student: It starts covering her body from her head, then.
The Shaykh: Her whole body. So, let us assume that the khimar on your head is that jilbab which is ample down to the soles of the feet. Okay, cover. Let us see. You now have your face and your hands with this.
The student: And the hands.
The Shaykh: Keep it on your face now.
The student: I mean, for example, by doing this, my Shaykh.
The Shaykh: Come on, all of it.
The student: Keep it, finish.
The Shaykh: Keep it, keep it.
The student: Cover. Consider that I have covered.
The Shaykh: In the gathering, are you satisfied? You cover your face with the jilbab, what about the street? Consider, O you who have eyes. Now, if you were at the door of this farm and entered while covering your face with this jilbab, can you walk five steps? Why do you not speak?
The student: I mean, one might find a way so that people can see in it.
The Shaykh: We have rejected it, we have rejected it, we have rejected it.
The student: I mean, this is what is placed on the face, my Shaykh.
The Shaykh: We have rejected it, my brother. May Allah guide you.
The student: I cannot cut it, it needs a trim.
The Shaykh: So, the jilbab, hehe. So, the jilbab... and the one mentioned in the verse. Do you want to add to the jilbab mentioned in the verse additions from yourselves? This is where the scissors work. This is what is intended by the jilbab mentioned in the verse. Actually, I entered into an experience similar to this one, but it was more successful than yours, because your luck is good, mine.
The student : ... our Shaykh.
The Shaykh: May Allah preserve you. I was in a gathering in a room. Now, there is no space. If we told you to walk, you could not walk.
The student: Of course.
The Shaykh: The man stood up, I stood up... and it was hotter. He said: You are saying the woman's face is not 'awrah, and Allah says in the verse. I did this experiment with him. He was wearing the ghutrah, the one they call the red one, exactly. I said to him: Assume this is a jilbab. He said: ... He was standing like this and very enthusiastic. I said to him: Cover, let us see how? He covered. I said to him: Come forward to me. He said: I cannot. It is five... steps in the room. He said: I cannot. I said: O people, fear Allah. If a woman goes out of her home, her Lord commands her to place the jilbab on her body. How do you impose on her to cover her face? He could not do it except after covering his face, he met you and your friend. We said: Let us open a hole. Hehe, yes. I said to him: Where did you get this hole from? The verse says jilbab, and you say the jilbab that covers the face. This is not possible, my brother.
The student: Okay, the verse is in al-Nur, my Shaykh.
Another student: One by one, one by one.
The Shaykh: One by one, one by one. Yes, may Allah bless you. One by one, one by one.
The questioner: ... . It fell to the ground, I mean, what.
The student: Unplug the recorder... .
Another student: ... I agree with the Shaykh's statement.
Another student: My Shaykh, allow us... .
The Shaykh: Please... .
The student: I know, my Shaykh.
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