What is the situation in which it is permissible, or rather becomes more emphasized, for a person in the front row to move back and allow someone behind him to take his place?
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The Shaykh: Go ahead.
The questioner : For example, Shaykh, if you please: Abu Fars might be in the first row, then he looks and sees, for instance, that Zayd is more memorized than he is, or more knowledgeable, so he moves this man forward, and then he himself moves back. Is this possible?
The Shaykh : It is possible and it is not possible. How? Why did he move him forward? You mentioned it.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : All right, the fact that he is more memorized, the fact that he is, for example, more knowledgeable, the fact that he is better in his opinion and more God-fearing—what is the intention behind this reasoning?
The questioner : I mean, is this reasoning taken from the action of Abu al-Darda', may Allah know best?
The Shaykh : No, I will start for you: because this man is older in age, so he moved him forward. All right?
The questioner : Being older in age is not a condition, Shaykh!
The Shaykh : All right? Say yes or no, may Allah guide you. We need to learn speech, not the science of speech!
The questioner : Yes, because he is older than him, he moved him forward.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : I do not do it that way, I mean!
The Shaykh : I asked you: do you do it or not, may Allah guide you?!
The questioner : All right, all right, go ahead, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : What is all right?
The questioner : That he moves forward the one who is older than him.
The Shaykh : I see you standing!
The questioner : I mean, we answered and we left, hehehe!
The Shaykh : Give the answer!
The questioner : Because he is older than him.
The Shaykh : Yes, he moved him forward because he is older than him.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Good?
The questioner : It is good.
The Shaykh : Fine?
The questioner : Good.
The Shaykh : ؟
The questioner: No.
The Shaykh : What if it were? You have ruined all these premises. What if it were? Why is it fine and why is it good?!
The questioner : I mean, he respects him out of respect, that is all, it does not mean anything.
The Shaykh : We have returned to frivolity. You have left the worship!
The questioner : Because here he has left the reward and given it to another without permission, so this has become selfishness (ithr)!
The Shaykh : Yes, it has become the opposite of selfishness!
The questioner : Yes, the opposite of selfishness, yes.
The Shaykh : Hey, what? We have crossed it out now. He moved him forward because he is older in age.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : All right?! All right, we said: no, it is not good, correct?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : All right, he moved him forward because he is more knowledgeable than him. All right?!
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Correct?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Or is it not correct?
The questioner : Correct.
The Shaykh : Why?
The questioner : He is more knowledgeable than him, so he moved him forward!
The Shaykh : And this one is better than him, so he moved him forward, may Allah guide you!!
The questioner : It is the same, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : You accepted it and then you returned it. You said: it is not good. Before that you said: it is good.
The questioner : May Allah guide you. We said: good and fine, we counted it twice!
The Shaykh : Yes, and you returned from it. How quickly you forgot?! Did he not return, people of goodness?!
The questioner : He returned, Shaykh. He said: it is not selfishness (ithr).
The Shaykh : Hey, did you return from it?!
The questioner : I said it is not selfishness (ithr), yes.
The Shaykh : Now we have left the better man and taken a second example: the more knowledgeable one. Did he move him forward, is it good or not good?!
The questioner : Not good!
The Shaykh : Hey, did you see how it is? All right, now we reach you. Did he move him forward because he is a better reciter, is it good or not good?!
The questioner : Not good!
The Shaykh : You made a mistake!
The questioner : Be patient.
The Shaykh : You made a mistake by Abu Fars's testimony.
The questioner : We are moving forward to the row, not to the imamate, Shaykh, pay attention here!
The Shaykh : Not you!
The questioner : To the row, not to the imamate.
The questioner : Yes, yes, meaning even if it is not the Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Not you, we were talking about the row.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : And you wanted to bring a hadith, and you doubted the narration, whether the Companion was so-and-so or so-and-so, was it not about the row?!
The questioner : About the row, yes.
The Shaykh : So why are you still being cautious, it is not about the imamate?!
The questioner : I mean, if we agree!
The Shaykh : About the row, about the row, the talk is about the row!
The questioner: All right.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner : Who took the glasses to wipe my throat?!
Another questioner: Hehehe.
The questioner : I took them off for fear that Abu Fars would drop them.
Another questioner : You dropped them!
The Shaykh : He is busy with his work now, hehehe.
The questioner : He is now, Shaykh, even trying to get out of this topic, hehehe.
The Shaykh: Hehehe.
The questioner : Now, it is not the first time he is wiping his throat, our Shaykh.
The Shaykh: Hehehe.
The questioner: Hehehe.
Another questioner : Under the pretext of the Pepsi.
The Shaykh : The hadith you wanted to bring, is it not related to the row?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : All right, so our discussion is still in the row. The final picture, and I hope it is the final one with your effort: he moved him forward because he is a better reciter. Is it good or not?
The questioner : Better.
The Shaykh : Why?
The questioner : Because he is a better reciter, I mean.
The Shaykh : I presented it to you: because he is a better reciter, did he move him forward, is it good or did he do wrong?
The questioner : Better.
The Shaykh : Why? You are returning my own words. He moved him forward because he is a better reciter. Why do you not say: it is good?
The questioner : He moved him forward because he is a better reciter.
The Shaykh : My brother.
The questioner : He moved him forward, I say because he is a better reciter.
The Shaykh : I told you: he moved him forward, because he is a better reciter. You are repeating my same answer...
The questioner : I mean, for the hadith, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Hey, did you see how it is!
The questioner : For the hadith.
The Shaykh : May Allah keep this mouth safe. For the hadith. What does the hadith say then?
The questioner :Sunan an-Nasa'i 812Sahih (Darussalam) .
The Shaykh : Hey, hey, so here there is a legal ruling, whereas in the previous examples there is no legal ruling for us, so the matter is different. All right, for here?
The questioner : I mean, let us just benefit from this point!
The Shaykh : Before, before, before!
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : I am asking you, is it all right for here?
The questioner : Of course, it is all right.
The Shaykh : All right, now you were cautious just now and you said: the discussion is about moving him to the row. Why move him to the row?
The questioner : Because I believe that the hadith of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him):Jami` at-Tirmidhi 225Sahih (Darussalam), so no one moves forward except, I mean, for a situation like this situation only.
The Shaykh : We have withdrawn the testimony I gave you just now. You have ruined it, you have ruined it!
The questioner : He is drinking Pepsi.
The Shaykh : You have ruined the topic, may Allah guide you. So he preferred another person in worship, in the expression you are bringing, and this is a mistake. What does it mean:Sunan an-Nasa'i 812Sahih (Darussalam)?
The questioner : This is what I was going to ask you, and you told me: wait a little!
The Shaykh : Yes, I am wrong.
The questioner : May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Relax. Hehehe.
The Shaykh : I am saying: I asked a question, do you have its answer?
The questioner : I mean, a man who has the broader mind, the more understanding, and the more memorized regarding the Book and the Sunnah.
The Shaykh : And if?
The questioner : Yes?
The Shaykh : And if? And what?
The questioner : Hehehe.
Another questioner : O brothers, do not laugh. Ask for steadfastness for your brother...
The questioner: Hehehe.
The Shaykh: Hehehe.
The questioner: Hehehe.
The ShaykhMishkat al-Masabih 1088, perhaps the imam will encounter something in which he makes a mistake in the recitation of the Qur'an, or something will happen to him such that he delegates and appoints another, so at that time this other person takes his place, or his recitation is opened to him. This is the intention.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : All right? All right, now the same picture. All of this is for a word said there: how did we distinguish between the "la" that negates the validity of the worship and the one that does not?! Because the matter needs jurisprudence. Look now how many pictures we have presented, how we developed in questions and answers. Now your question, all of this, or your answer, all of this, will change for the next question. This is if you understood with me. Now the row is fifty meters long, and you are at one end of the row, at the far right or left. The Shaykh is behind you: the better reciter, the more knowledgeable, the older, and everything, he is more deserving. Do you move him forward?!
The questioner: No.
The Shaykh : Why?
The questioner : Because the imam far away will not benefit from him.
The Shaykh : Hey, hey, now I renew the testimony. May Allah keep this mouth safe.
The questioner : For example, Shaykh, if you please: Abu Fars might be in the first row, then he looks and sees, for instance, that Zayd is more memorized than he is, or more knowledgeable, so he moves this man forward, and then he himself moves back. Is this possible?
The Shaykh : It is possible and it is not possible. How? Why did he move him forward? You mentioned it.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : All right, the fact that he is more memorized, the fact that he is, for example, more knowledgeable, the fact that he is better in his opinion and more God-fearing—what is the intention behind this reasoning?
The questioner : I mean, is this reasoning taken from the action of Abu al-Darda', may Allah know best?
The Shaykh : No, I will start for you: because this man is older in age, so he moved him forward. All right?
The questioner : Being older in age is not a condition, Shaykh!
The Shaykh : All right? Say yes or no, may Allah guide you. We need to learn speech, not the science of speech!
The questioner : Yes, because he is older than him, he moved him forward.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : I do not do it that way, I mean!
The Shaykh : I asked you: do you do it or not, may Allah guide you?!
The questioner : All right, all right, go ahead, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : What is all right?
The questioner : That he moves forward the one who is older than him.
The Shaykh : I see you standing!
The questioner : I mean, we answered and we left, hehehe!
The Shaykh : Give the answer!
The questioner : Because he is older than him.
The Shaykh : Yes, he moved him forward because he is older than him.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Good?
The questioner : It is good.
The Shaykh : Fine?
The questioner : Good.
The Shaykh :
And they prefer themselves over their own selves
وَيُؤْثِرُونَ عَلَى أَنْفُسِهِمْThe questioner: No.
The Shaykh : What if it were? You have ruined all these premises. What if it were? Why is it fine and why is it good?!
The questioner : I mean, he respects him out of respect, that is all, it does not mean anything.
The Shaykh : We have returned to frivolity. You have left the worship!
The questioner : Because here he has left the reward and given it to another without permission, so this has become selfishness (ithr)!
The Shaykh : Yes, it has become the opposite of selfishness!
The questioner : Yes, the opposite of selfishness, yes.
The Shaykh : Hey, what? We have crossed it out now. He moved him forward because he is older in age.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : All right?! All right, we said: no, it is not good, correct?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : All right, he moved him forward because he is more knowledgeable than him. All right?!
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Correct?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Or is it not correct?
The questioner : Correct.
The Shaykh : Why?
The questioner : He is more knowledgeable than him, so he moved him forward!
The Shaykh : And this one is better than him, so he moved him forward, may Allah guide you!!
The questioner : It is the same, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : You accepted it and then you returned it. You said: it is not good. Before that you said: it is good.
The questioner : May Allah guide you. We said: good and fine, we counted it twice!
The Shaykh : Yes, and you returned from it. How quickly you forgot?! Did he not return, people of goodness?!
The questioner : He returned, Shaykh. He said: it is not selfishness (ithr).
The Shaykh : Hey, did you return from it?!
The questioner : I said it is not selfishness (ithr), yes.
The Shaykh : Now we have left the better man and taken a second example: the more knowledgeable one. Did he move him forward, is it good or not good?!
The questioner : Not good!
The Shaykh : Hey, did you see how it is? All right, now we reach you. Did he move him forward because he is a better reciter, is it good or not good?!
The questioner : Not good!
The Shaykh : You made a mistake!
The questioner : Be patient.
The Shaykh : You made a mistake by Abu Fars's testimony.
The questioner : We are moving forward to the row, not to the imamate, Shaykh, pay attention here!
The Shaykh : Not you!
The questioner : To the row, not to the imamate.
The questioner : Yes, yes, meaning even if it is not the Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Not you, we were talking about the row.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : And you wanted to bring a hadith, and you doubted the narration, whether the Companion was so-and-so or so-and-so, was it not about the row?!
The questioner : About the row, yes.
The Shaykh : So why are you still being cautious, it is not about the imamate?!
The questioner : I mean, if we agree!
The Shaykh : About the row, about the row, the talk is about the row!
The questioner: All right.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner : Who took the glasses to wipe my throat?!
Another questioner: Hehehe.
The questioner : I took them off for fear that Abu Fars would drop them.
Another questioner : You dropped them!
The Shaykh : He is busy with his work now, hehehe.
The questioner : He is now, Shaykh, even trying to get out of this topic, hehehe.
The Shaykh: Hehehe.
The questioner : Now, it is not the first time he is wiping his throat, our Shaykh.
The Shaykh: Hehehe.
The questioner: Hehehe.
Another questioner : Under the pretext of the Pepsi.
The Shaykh : The hadith you wanted to bring, is it not related to the row?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : All right, so our discussion is still in the row. The final picture, and I hope it is the final one with your effort: he moved him forward because he is a better reciter. Is it good or not?
The questioner : Better.
The Shaykh : Why?
The questioner : Because he is a better reciter, I mean.
The Shaykh : I presented it to you: because he is a better reciter, did he move him forward, is it good or did he do wrong?
The questioner : Better.
The Shaykh : Why? You are returning my own words. He moved him forward because he is a better reciter. Why do you not say: it is good?
The questioner : He moved him forward because he is a better reciter.
The Shaykh : My brother.
The questioner : He moved him forward, I say because he is a better reciter.
The Shaykh : I told you: he moved him forward, because he is a better reciter. You are repeating my same answer...
The questioner : I mean, for the hadith, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Hey, did you see how it is!
The questioner : For the hadith.
The Shaykh : May Allah keep this mouth safe. For the hadith. What does the hadith say then?
The questioner :
Let those who are mature and wise stand closest to me
ليليني منكم أولو الأحلام والنهىThe Shaykh : Hey, hey, so here there is a legal ruling, whereas in the previous examples there is no legal ruling for us, so the matter is different. All right, for here?
The questioner : I mean, let us just benefit from this point!
The Shaykh : Before, before, before!
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : I am asking you, is it all right for here?
The questioner : Of course, it is all right.
The Shaykh : All right, now you were cautious just now and you said: the discussion is about moving him to the row. Why move him to the row?
The questioner : Because I believe that the hadith of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him):
and they found no other way to get that except drawing lots, then they would draw lots.
ولو علموا ما في الصَّفِّ الأول ثم لم يجدوا إلا أن يستَهِمُوا عليه لَاستَهَمُواThe Shaykh : We have withdrawn the testimony I gave you just now. You have ruined it, you have ruined it!
The questioner : He is drinking Pepsi.
The Shaykh : You have ruined the topic, may Allah guide you. So he preferred another person in worship, in the expression you are bringing, and this is a mistake. What does it mean:
Let those who are mature and wise stand closest to me
ليليني منكم أولو الأحلام والنُّهَىThe questioner : This is what I was going to ask you, and you told me: wait a little!
The Shaykh : Yes, I am wrong.
The questioner : May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Relax. Hehehe.
The Shaykh : I am saying: I asked a question, do you have its answer?
The questioner : I mean, a man who has the broader mind, the more understanding, and the more memorized regarding the Book and the Sunnah.
The Shaykh : And if?
The questioner : Yes?
The Shaykh : And if? And what?
The questioner : Hehehe.
Another questioner : O brothers, do not laugh. Ask for steadfastness for your brother...
The questioner: Hehehe.
The Shaykh: Hehehe.
The questioner: Hehehe.
The Shaykh
Let those of you who are sedate and prudent be near me
ليليني منكم أولوا الأحلام والنُّهَىThe questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : All right? All right, now the same picture. All of this is for a word said there: how did we distinguish between the "la" that negates the validity of the worship and the one that does not?! Because the matter needs jurisprudence. Look now how many pictures we have presented, how we developed in questions and answers. Now your question, all of this, or your answer, all of this, will change for the next question. This is if you understood with me. Now the row is fifty meters long, and you are at one end of the row, at the far right or left. The Shaykh is behind you: the better reciter, the more knowledgeable, the older, and everything, he is more deserving. Do you move him forward?!
The questioner: No.
The Shaykh : Why?
The questioner : Because the imam far away will not benefit from him.
The Shaykh : Hey, hey, now I renew the testimony. May Allah keep this mouth safe.
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