On the hadith: (If the people see an oppressor and do not take him by the hand, it is likely that Allah will encompass them with a punishment from Him), you commented on the words of al-Hafiz Ibn Kathir
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The questioner : Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : And peace be upon you, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings.
The questioner : Here is hadith number one thousand five hundred and sixty-four in al-Silsilah al-Sahihah
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner :Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2168Sahih (Darussalam)
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : You commented, may Allah preserve you, on the words of al-Hafiz Ibn Kathir in the Tafsir
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : And you said the first, then the other is his assertion that al-Daraqutni preferred its suspension (mawquf). So when I returned to the printed books in our possession regarding the Tafsir of Ibn Kathir, in all of them it says that al-Daraqutni preferred its elevation (marfu')
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : So I do not know if this statement is in the manuscript or not
The Shaykh : Be patient with me for a moment
The questioner : I am ready
The Shaykh : On which page, the first or the second?
The questioner : The second and the other
The Shaykh : Read it to me
The questioner :"And the other is his assertion that al-Daraqutni preferred its suspension (mawquf)"
The Shaykh : Excuse me, to whom does the pronoun refer?
The questioner : Refer back to the hadith for me
The Shaykh : No, no, his assertion, who is it that you understood? You say Ibn Kathir
The student: And al-Hafiz Ibn Kathir said in the Tafsir
The Shaykh : Slow down, where do you want to hold me? Where is this statement?
The student: Page eighty-eight
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: On page number eighty-eight, the previous page
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: "And the four compilers of the Sunan, Ibn Hibban in his Sahih, and others have narrated this hadith through many routes from many people from Isma'il ibn Abi Khalid, connected and elevated (marfu'). And some of them narrated it from him as suspended (mawquf) upon al-Siddiq. And al-Daraqutni and others preferred its suspension (mawquf)"
The Shaykh : Yes, so you are saying now that in the copy it is "And he preferred its elevation (marfu')"
The student: The printed copy says "And al-Daraqutni and others preferred its elevation (marfu')", the printed copies
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: You say that it is "And al-Daraqutni and others preferred its elevation (marfu')"
The Shaykh : Okay, you, my professor, when you say the printed copies, how many copies did you look at?
The student: We looked at the oldest printed copy, which is probably around 1932, and it is written in it "its elevation (marfu')", and the copy we have from Ihya' al-Turath al-'Arabi, and also the copy of Isa al-Badi' al-Halabi and partners, this is the oldest copy in our possession. Then I thought that the manuscript has in it "its suspension (mawquf)"
The Shaykh : Okay, the statement that follows, may Allah bless you, does it align with his saying "as it is correct, and he preferred its elevation (marfu')" or "its suspension (mawquf)"? Because it is possible that this is a typographical error from me or from someone else. So the complete statement proceeds on what basis, that the preferred view is suspension (mawquf) or elevation (marfu')?
The student: The preferred view for us is elevation (marfu'), if Allah wills
The Shaykh : I am not asking you what you have
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : The complete statement, the complete statement, read it so we can see
The student: Ibn Kathir
The Shaykh : No, after the words of Ibn Kathir
The student: You said "And in this statement there are two observations"
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: "The first is his attribution of the hadith to al-Nasa'i by his general statement 'the four'"
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: "Al-Mundhiri explicitly stated his attribution to him"
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: To the end of the statement
The Shaykh : Very well.
The student: "And the other"
The Shaykh : Ah
The student: "... that al-Daraqutni preferred its suspension (mawquf)"
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: So al-Diya' al-Maqdisi quoted his statement at the end of the hadith, and its summary is that the trustworthy narrators differed regarding Isma'il, so some of them elevated it (marfu') and some of them suspended it (mawquf). Then he mentioned the names of those who elevated it, and their number reached twenty-two people, and the number of those who suspended it was only four. Al-Daraqutni said: "And all the narrators of this hadith are trustworthy, and it is likely that Qays ibn Abi Hazim used to copy in the narration, sometimes elevating it and sometimes being shy of it, so he would suspend it upon Abu Bakr" So you see that he does not prefer the suspended (mawquf) version, but the apparent meaning of his statement is that he is more inclined to prefer the elevated (marfu') version, and that is the correct one
The Shaykh : Ah, I understand you now
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : So what you quoted from Ibn Kathir, either it is an error in the copy that I am relying on. Did you return to this copy?
The student: No, by Allah, I did not return to it, because I do not know which copy you are relying on, I mean
The Shaykh : It is written in your copy two hundred and nine
The student: Two hundred and nine, all of the printed volumes are two hundred and nine, I mean the one I have is two hundred and nine
The Shaykh : So it is a photocopy, right? Okay, so I will review it. It appears that it must be an error, either in my transmission or in the copy that I have. So we will review it, if Allah wills, but it appears that it is an error from me
The student: My master, we ask Allah Mighty and Majestic for good for you and for us, if Allah wills
The Shaykh : May Allah accept, and may Allah reward you with good
The Shaykh : And peace be upon you, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings.
The questioner : Here is hadith number one thousand five hundred and sixty-four in al-Silsilah al-Sahihah
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner :
When the people see the wrongdoer and they do not take him by the hand, then soon Allah shall envelope you in a punishment from him.
إن الناس إذا رأوا الظالم فلم يأخذوا بيده أوشك أن يعمهم الله بعقاب منهThe Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : You commented, may Allah preserve you, on the words of al-Hafiz Ibn Kathir in the Tafsir
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : And you said the first, then the other is his assertion that al-Daraqutni preferred its suspension (mawquf). So when I returned to the printed books in our possession regarding the Tafsir of Ibn Kathir, in all of them it says that al-Daraqutni preferred its elevation (marfu')
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : So I do not know if this statement is in the manuscript or not
The Shaykh : Be patient with me for a moment
The questioner : I am ready
The Shaykh : On which page, the first or the second?
The questioner : The second and the other
The Shaykh : Read it to me
The questioner :"And the other is his assertion that al-Daraqutni preferred its suspension (mawquf)"
The Shaykh : Excuse me, to whom does the pronoun refer?
The questioner : Refer back to the hadith for me
The Shaykh : No, no, his assertion, who is it that you understood? You say Ibn Kathir
The student: And al-Hafiz Ibn Kathir said in the Tafsir
The Shaykh : Slow down, where do you want to hold me? Where is this statement?
The student: Page eighty-eight
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: On page number eighty-eight, the previous page
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: "And the four compilers of the Sunan, Ibn Hibban in his Sahih, and others have narrated this hadith through many routes from many people from Isma'il ibn Abi Khalid, connected and elevated (marfu'). And some of them narrated it from him as suspended (mawquf) upon al-Siddiq. And al-Daraqutni and others preferred its suspension (mawquf)"
The Shaykh : Yes, so you are saying now that in the copy it is "And he preferred its elevation (marfu')"
The student: The printed copy says "And al-Daraqutni and others preferred its elevation (marfu')", the printed copies
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: You say that it is "And al-Daraqutni and others preferred its elevation (marfu')"
The Shaykh : Okay, you, my professor, when you say the printed copies, how many copies did you look at?
The student: We looked at the oldest printed copy, which is probably around 1932, and it is written in it "its elevation (marfu')", and the copy we have from Ihya' al-Turath al-'Arabi, and also the copy of Isa al-Badi' al-Halabi and partners, this is the oldest copy in our possession. Then I thought that the manuscript has in it "its suspension (mawquf)"
The Shaykh : Okay, the statement that follows, may Allah bless you, does it align with his saying "as it is correct, and he preferred its elevation (marfu')" or "its suspension (mawquf)"? Because it is possible that this is a typographical error from me or from someone else. So the complete statement proceeds on what basis, that the preferred view is suspension (mawquf) or elevation (marfu')?
The student: The preferred view for us is elevation (marfu'), if Allah wills
The Shaykh : I am not asking you what you have
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : The complete statement, the complete statement, read it so we can see
The student: Ibn Kathir
The Shaykh : No, after the words of Ibn Kathir
The student: You said "And in this statement there are two observations"
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: "The first is his attribution of the hadith to al-Nasa'i by his general statement 'the four'"
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: "Al-Mundhiri explicitly stated his attribution to him"
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: To the end of the statement
The Shaykh : Very well.
The student: "And the other"
The Shaykh : Ah
The student: "... that al-Daraqutni preferred its suspension (mawquf)"
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: So al-Diya' al-Maqdisi quoted his statement at the end of the hadith, and its summary is that the trustworthy narrators differed regarding Isma'il, so some of them elevated it (marfu') and some of them suspended it (mawquf). Then he mentioned the names of those who elevated it, and their number reached twenty-two people, and the number of those who suspended it was only four. Al-Daraqutni said: "And all the narrators of this hadith are trustworthy, and it is likely that Qays ibn Abi Hazim used to copy in the narration, sometimes elevating it and sometimes being shy of it, so he would suspend it upon Abu Bakr" So you see that he does not prefer the suspended (mawquf) version, but the apparent meaning of his statement is that he is more inclined to prefer the elevated (marfu') version, and that is the correct one
The Shaykh : Ah, I understand you now
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : So what you quoted from Ibn Kathir, either it is an error in the copy that I am relying on. Did you return to this copy?
The student: No, by Allah, I did not return to it, because I do not know which copy you are relying on, I mean
The Shaykh : It is written in your copy two hundred and nine
The student: Two hundred and nine, all of the printed volumes are two hundred and nine, I mean the one I have is two hundred and nine
The Shaykh : So it is a photocopy, right? Okay, so I will review it. It appears that it must be an error, either in my transmission or in the copy that I have. So we will review it, if Allah wills, but it appears that it is an error from me
The student: My master, we ask Allah Mighty and Majestic for good for you and for us, if Allah wills
The Shaykh : May Allah accept, and may Allah reward you with good