Discussion: The student’s discussion with the Shaykh regarding the tracing of the hadith (If people see an oppressor and do not take hold of his hand, Allah is likely to encompass them all with His punishment).
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The student : In another point regarding the tracing, if you please.
The Shaykh: Go ahead.
The student : He says, and the ruling is discussed, meaning the command, you say, and the ruling is that al-Hakam ibn 'Utaybah, even though he is a trustworthy and firm narrator like Isma'il ibn Abi Khalid, is below him in two respects. The first is that he may have practiced concealment of defects, as stated in al-Taqrib.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The student : Also, Isma'il ibn Abi Khalid and al-Hakam ibn 'Utaybah were classified in the ranks of those who practice concealment of defects in the second rank. Isma'il ibn Abi Khalid and al-Hakam ibn 'Utaybah are in the same rank. Then the second and final point is that he was not corroborated in its attribution to a Companion, unlike Isma'il, who was corroborated in its attribution to the Prophet, as mentioned earlier. And al-Hafiz ibn Hajar says in al-Mu'jam al-Zarfi 'ala Tuhfat al-Ashraf that Bayyan ibn Bashir was corroborated; he narrated it from Qays ibn Abi Hazim as a report stopping at a Companion. So Bayyan ibn Bashir corroborated al-Hakam ibn 'Utaybah in its attribution to a Companion as well.
The Shaykh : Where is this statement?
The student : This is in the chain. You say page eighty-nine, and the other point is that he was not corroborated in its attribution to a Companion, unlike Isma'il, who was corroborated in its attribution to the Prophet, as mentioned earlier.
The Shaykh : I understood, my brother, but you added things to this.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : I am saying, where is this?
The student : First, in al-'Ilal by al-Daraqutni, it is found in volume number one. Bayyan ibn Bashir, Tariq ibn 'Abd al-Rahman, Dhur ibn 'Abd Allah al-Hamadhani, Ibn 'Utaybah, 'Abd al-Malik al-Nu'man, and 'Abd al-Malik al-Maysarah narrated it from Qays from Abu Bakr as a report stopping at a Companion.
The Shaykh : Okay, you are reading it to me as if I am recording it. I just want the source so I can go back to it and verify based on it.
The student : Al-'Ilal by al-Daraqutni.
The Shaykh : Al-'Ilal.
The student : Al-'Ilal by al-Daraqutni, volume one, page two hundred and fifty-three.
The Shaykh : One person.
The student : One, two hundred and fifty-three.
The Shaykh : Two hundred and fifty-three. Okay, anything else?
The student : These are the points that came up in the tracing of this hadith.
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you with good.
The student : And may Allah bless you and preserve you, my brother, if Allah wills.
The Shaykh : And I reward you generously.
The student : For us and for you, if Allah wills.
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you with good and bless you.
The student : Greet all the brothers, if Allah wills.
The Shaykh : It will reach them, if Allah wills.
The student : Peace be upon you, and Allah’s mercy and blessings.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings and His forgiveness.
The Shaykh: Go ahead.
The student : He says, and the ruling is discussed, meaning the command, you say, and the ruling is that al-Hakam ibn 'Utaybah, even though he is a trustworthy and firm narrator like Isma'il ibn Abi Khalid, is below him in two respects. The first is that he may have practiced concealment of defects, as stated in al-Taqrib.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The student : Also, Isma'il ibn Abi Khalid and al-Hakam ibn 'Utaybah were classified in the ranks of those who practice concealment of defects in the second rank. Isma'il ibn Abi Khalid and al-Hakam ibn 'Utaybah are in the same rank. Then the second and final point is that he was not corroborated in its attribution to a Companion, unlike Isma'il, who was corroborated in its attribution to the Prophet, as mentioned earlier. And al-Hafiz ibn Hajar says in al-Mu'jam al-Zarfi 'ala Tuhfat al-Ashraf that Bayyan ibn Bashir was corroborated; he narrated it from Qays ibn Abi Hazim as a report stopping at a Companion. So Bayyan ibn Bashir corroborated al-Hakam ibn 'Utaybah in its attribution to a Companion as well.
The Shaykh : Where is this statement?
The student : This is in the chain. You say page eighty-nine, and the other point is that he was not corroborated in its attribution to a Companion, unlike Isma'il, who was corroborated in its attribution to the Prophet, as mentioned earlier.
The Shaykh : I understood, my brother, but you added things to this.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : I am saying, where is this?
The student : First, in al-'Ilal by al-Daraqutni, it is found in volume number one. Bayyan ibn Bashir, Tariq ibn 'Abd al-Rahman, Dhur ibn 'Abd Allah al-Hamadhani, Ibn 'Utaybah, 'Abd al-Malik al-Nu'man, and 'Abd al-Malik al-Maysarah narrated it from Qays from Abu Bakr as a report stopping at a Companion.
The Shaykh : Okay, you are reading it to me as if I am recording it. I just want the source so I can go back to it and verify based on it.
The student : Al-'Ilal by al-Daraqutni.
The Shaykh : Al-'Ilal.
The student : Al-'Ilal by al-Daraqutni, volume one, page two hundred and fifty-three.
The Shaykh : One person.
The student : One, two hundred and fifty-three.
The Shaykh : Two hundred and fifty-three. Okay, anything else?
The student : These are the points that came up in the tracing of this hadith.
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you with good.
The student : And may Allah bless you and preserve you, my brother, if Allah wills.
The Shaykh : And I reward you generously.
The student : For us and for you, if Allah wills.
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you with good and bless you.
The student : Greet all the brothers, if Allah wills.
The Shaykh : It will reach them, if Allah wills.
The student : Peace be upon you, and Allah’s mercy and blessings.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings and His forgiveness.
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