Continuation of another part of the dialogue regarding a modern classification of Islamic societies based on events from the Prophet’s biography, and the Shaykh’s commentary on it.

The student : I do not think that Shaykh Adnan is saying this classification in terms of rulings, meaning that if we are close to the Meccan society, we are only bound by the rulings of the Meccan society. No, he does not say that. Rather, he is approximating these classifications to the minds of the listeners, indicating that the Meccan society had rulings that may apply to Muslims, for example, in our time. He does not mean that the civil rulings of our time are abrogated. He does not say that at all. Rather, he is speaking in terms of the proximity or distance of the caliphate from Muslims, regarding the establishment of an Islamic state, its existence or non-existence, and the call to it.
Another student: It is sufficient for him to mention two societies and be done with it, meaning a Meccan society and a Medinan society.
The student : Yes, but in the Medinan society, an Islamic state was established. But what do you say about the Najashi society or the Hajjaj society? Hajjaj ibn Yusuf was an open sinner who slaughtered Muslims. So what is the action toward this man? And are we living, for example, if we find in this society something like this society, what is the obligatory duty for us toward this corrupt ruler?
Another student: Applying the texts of the Shari'ah.
The student : So what has come, then, is that if there is a corrupt ruler over the Muslims...

The Shaykh : Is it not possible to understand the answer to this question except with this classification?

The questioner : Like this, of course, you can understand from the texts that if he is a corrupt ruler, "then if he strikes your back and takes your wealth, obedience is known."

The Shaykh: All right.
The student : But to make it clear to the minds, I say as an example, in the time of Hajjaj ibn Yusuf, what is it?

The Shaykh : Yes, what is the name of this society?
The student : He calls it the Hajjaj society.
Another student: Here, under the society... the societies.

The Shaykh : That is it.
The student : He calls it the Hajjaj society.

The Shaykh : Meaning, whoever said that it is permissible for one person to reach them to ten is correct.
The student : It is possible that he, O Shaykh, did not specify them as ten; I do not remember...
Another student: I understood.
The student : It is possible that it is one, and then, but he may have mentioned, he says with examples, in a tape I remember.