What is the ruling on adding: (and His forgiveness) to the greeting?
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The questioner: Regarding ... .
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner: The addition to the greeting, naturally, is verified in the third volume, second edition.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner: So some of the brothers greet me and say: Peace be upon you, and Allah's mercy and His blessings, and they do not add, but they add something else, saying: "O Allah, forgive me and my brother," and they send blessings upon the Messenger - peace and blessings be upon him - immediately after that. When I asked him, he meant to say: he heard it, and it is in the Sunnah, as he read or heard. I did not find anything in this. I tried to convince him that there is nothing in the Sunnah except the addition of: , and it is authentic; but he did not accept it. So what do we say to him? And what is the ruling on what he says?
The Shaykh: - And upon you be peace, and Allah's mercy and His blessings -
What we can say to such a person is: If you are a transmitter, then [provide] the authenticity, or if you are a claimant, then [provide] the evidence.
-- And upon you be peace, and Allah's mercy.
Another questioner: Dr. Al-'Umrī.
The Shaykh: Welcome, how are you? ... Welcome, pleased to meet you --
= We say to him: If you are a transmitter, then [provide] the authenticity, or if you are a claimant, then [provide] the evidence. And this is from the saying of He - Exalted is He - :[Al-Baqarah 2:111]. And what you related from that man is, as I said; we do not know a basis for this. But regarding the addition of: , I want to draw attention to the fact that this is only in the response to the greeting, and not in initiating the greeting; meaning, if I initiate the greeting to a Muslim, it is permissible for me to say: Peace be upon you, and Allah's mercy and His blessings, if I initiate it. But it is not permissible for me to add in the initiation: ; because this is an addition to what was transmitted, and that is not permissible, as is the case with all transmitted matters. As for the response to the greeting; as He - Exalted is He - said in the Qur'an: [An-Nisa 4:86]; so at that time, responding with something better requires that I respond to the one who initiated the full greeting and said: Peace be upon you, and Allah's mercy and His blessings, by adding to it and saying: . The hadith came in this manner. We should distinguish between initiating the greeting and responding to the greeting. So initiating the greeting ends with "and His blessings," whereas the response to this full greeting involves the addition of: ; and at that time, the hadith aligns with the verse: [An-Nisa 4:86].
And the truth, on this occasion, is that I say: One of the benefits of the Sunnah, upon which the Ummah has agreed, is that it explains and clarifies the Qur'an. Indeed, people - even today, except for a very few of them - are unable to apply the better response mentioned in the noble verse when the initiated greeting is complete with "and His blessings," and they do not add to the response, but they suffice with a portion of the verse. As for the better response, they find no way to it; because it has become established in their minds that it is not permissible to add to "and His blessings" absolutely. So that hadith came to draw attention to the fact that it is permissible to add in the response: , and this matches His saying - Exalted is He - : [An-Nisa 4:86].
So the summary is the distinction between initiation and response. So in the initiation, "and His blessings" is not added, but this addition is in the response to the one who came with the greeting as an initiation.
The questioner : .
The Shaykh: You have done well. This addition is only brought for the better response to the one who came with the full greeting; which is "and His blessings."
The questioner: I say - O Shaykh - : What about the one who insists on saying: "O Allah, forgive me and my brother, O Allah, send blessings three times"?
The Shaykh: What we said to him; he must bring the text, otherwise it will be an addition.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: Please proceed.
The questioner: There is no objection to that.
The Shaykh : No, we.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: Yes, that is it. But the issue here is that he makes it a rule.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: Yes, exactly. Meaning, sometimes if a person does something from supplication on his own, there is no objection, but it is not permissible to commit to it as if it were part of the completion of the greeting.
Yes.
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner: The addition to the greeting
and His forgiveness
ومغفرتهThe Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner: So some of the brothers greet me and say: Peace be upon you, and Allah's mercy and His blessings, and they do not add
and His forgiveness
ومغفرتهand His forgiveness
ومغفرتهThe Shaykh: - And upon you be peace, and Allah's mercy and His blessings -
What we can say to such a person is: If you are a transmitter, then [provide] the authenticity, or if you are a claimant, then [provide] the evidence.
-- And upon you be peace, and Allah's mercy.
Another questioner: Dr. Al-'Umrī.
The Shaykh: Welcome, how are you? ... Welcome, pleased to meet you --
= We say to him: If you are a transmitter, then [provide] the authenticity, or if you are a claimant, then [provide] the evidence. And this is from the saying of He - Exalted is He - :
Say, "Produce your proof, if you should be truthful."
قل هاتوا برهانكم إن كنتم صادقينand His forgiveness
ومغفرتهand His forgiveness
ومغفرتهAnd when you are greeted with a greeting, greet [in return] with one better than it or [at least] return it
وإذا حُيِّيتم بتحية فحيُّوا بأحسن منها أو ردُّوهاand His forgiveness
ومغفرتهand His forgiveness
ومغفرتهAnd when you are greeted with a greeting, greet [in return] with one better than it or [at least] return it
وإذا حُيِّيتم بتحية فحيُّوا بأحسن منها أو ردُّوهاAnd the truth, on this occasion, is that I say: One of the benefits of the Sunnah, upon which the Ummah has agreed, is that it explains and clarifies the Qur'an. Indeed, people - even today, except for a very few of them - are unable to apply the better response mentioned in the noble verse when the initiated greeting is complete with "and His blessings," and they do not add to the response, but they suffice with a portion of the verse
or return it
أو ردُّوهاand His mercy
ومغفرتهgreet [in return] with one better than it
فحيوا بأحسن منهاSo the summary is the distinction between initiation and response. So in the initiation, "and His blessings" is not added, but this addition is in the response to the one who came with the greeting as an initiation
and His mercy
ومغفرتهThe questioner :
and His mercy
ومغفرتهThe Shaykh: You have done well. This addition is only brought for the better response to the one who came with the full greeting; which is "and His blessings."
The questioner: I say - O Shaykh - : What about the one who insists on saying: "O Allah, forgive me and my brother, O Allah, send blessings three times"?
The Shaykh: What we said to him; he must bring the text, otherwise it will be an addition.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: Please proceed.
The questioner: There is no objection to that.
The Shaykh : No, we.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: Yes, that is it. But the issue here is that he makes it a rule.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: Yes, exactly. Meaning, sometimes if a person does something from supplication on his own, there is no objection, but it is not permissible to commit to it as if it were part of the completion of the greeting.
Yes.
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