What is the authenticity of the addition: "and His forgiveness" in offering the greeting and in responding to it
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The questioner : ...the issue of adding "and His forgiveness" when offering the greeting, and the extent of the authenticity of the hadith reported regarding it, and conversely, the hadith reported regarding the response to the greeting.
The Shaykh : Yes, the hadith regarding offering the greeting does not include it... meaning, if one initiates the greeting by offering it, it ends with "and His blessings." "Peace be upon you, and the mercy of Allah, and His blessings." The hadith that was reported, or more precisely, the one that was narrated, states that in the fourth instance, the fourth person said, "Peace be upon you, and the mercy of Allah, and His blessings, and His forgiveness." This is a weak narration. As for the addition in the response, "and His blessings," it is established.
The questioner : And His forgiveness.
The Shaykh : In the response, and His forgiveness.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : And His forgiveness in the response, meaning a man says, "Peace be upon you, and the mercy of Allah, and His blessings." We add "and His forgiveness" in the response. This is reported from the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him), and we mentioned it in *Silsilat al-Ahadith al-Sahihah*, with a chain of narration that serves as a proof in one aspect, and it also aligns with the Noble Qur'an, which states:[An-Nisa 4:86]. If a Muslim greets and says, "Peace be upon you, and the mercy of Allah, and His blessings," the verse concerning [An-Nisa 4:86] has not been abrogated; this matter remains in effect, which is This addition appeared in a hadith, and then in established reports from some of the Companions. So we reached a conclusion, the gist of which is: adding "and His forgiveness" in the response is prescribed, while in the initial greeting, it is not prescribed. Is that clear?
The questioner : ...the one I heard today, praise be to Allah, and he authenticated it, meaning...
The Shaykh : I spoke with Abu Malik; I was in the car and was about to walk away when he greeted me. He drew my attention to the fact that he said to me, "The issue needs to be reconsidered." He said, "We took it from you."
The questioner : ...the people of hadith, we are going to hear from you... our level is the same...
The Shaykh : How?
The questioner : But we heard his response... indeed... the one who is upon the complete greeting adds "and His forgiveness" as you indicated...
The Shaykh : And I still do that, but I do not initiate it, I do not stop.
The questioner : Our Shaykh, the wording of Abu Dawud contains what you mentioned is weak, which seems to occur... or not?
The Shaykh : No, it contains "and His forgiveness."
The questioner : And His forgiveness in the initial greeting, but it is not authentic.
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed.
The Shaykh : Yes, the hadith regarding offering the greeting does not include it... meaning, if one initiates the greeting by offering it, it ends with "and His blessings." "Peace be upon you, and the mercy of Allah, and His blessings." The hadith that was reported, or more precisely, the one that was narrated, states that in the fourth instance, the fourth person said, "Peace be upon you, and the mercy of Allah, and His blessings, and His forgiveness." This is a weak narration. As for the addition in the response, "and His blessings," it is established.
The questioner : And His forgiveness.
The Shaykh : In the response, and His forgiveness.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : And His forgiveness in the response, meaning a man says, "Peace be upon you, and the mercy of Allah, and His blessings." We add "and His forgiveness" in the response. This is reported from the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him), and we mentioned it in *Silsilat al-Ahadith al-Sahihah*, with a chain of narration that serves as a proof in one aspect, and it also aligns with the Noble Qur'an, which states:
And when you are greeted with a greeting, greet [in return] with one better than it or [at least] return it
وإذا حييتم بتحية فحيوا بأحسن منها أو ردوهاgreet [in return] with one better than it
فحيوا بأحسن منهاand His forgiveness
ومغفرتهThe questioner : ...the one I heard today, praise be to Allah, and he authenticated it, meaning...
The Shaykh : I spoke with Abu Malik; I was in the car and was about to walk away when he greeted me. He drew my attention to the fact that he said to me, "The issue needs to be reconsidered." He said, "We took it from you."
The questioner : ...the people of hadith, we are going to hear from you... our level is the same...
The Shaykh : How?
The questioner : But we heard his response... indeed... the one who is upon the complete greeting adds "and His forgiveness" as you indicated...
The Shaykh : And I still do that, but I do not initiate it, I do not stop.
The questioner : Our Shaykh, the wording of Abu Dawud contains what you mentioned is weak, which seems to occur... or not?
The Shaykh : No, it contains "and His forgiveness."
The questioner : And His forgiveness in the initial greeting, but it is not authentic.
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed.