What is the ruling on a group that exists among us in Pakistan, which calls itself the Muslim Group, and claims that it is upon the Book and the Sunnah, and that it is the group of truth and nothing else?
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The questioner : What is the ruling on a group that exists among us in Pakistan, which calls itself the Muslim Group, and claims that it is upon the Book and the Sunnah, and that it is the group of truth and nothing else, and that any group is not upon the truth, and even if they call themselves the People of Hadith, then this name is a religious innovation, or if they call themselves the Salafis, then it is a religious innovation? And they cite the saying of Allah the Exalted , and in al-Bukhari, and the meaning of , and they also say that any group from these groups, even if they are People of Hadith or any other group, it is not permissible to greet them or return the greeting, nor even to pray behind them, and they consider following a scholar without knowing his evidence to be associating partners with Allah?
The Shaykh : ... meaning ... there is, as I will now explain in detail, a new phenomenon that brings to our minds the group of declaring people disbelievers, which we thought had perished. And the group of declaring people disbelievers reached this extreme, and I met groups from them and discussed with them extensively in Syria and in Jordan, and Allah the Exalted guided many of them, so much so that due to the length of the discussion on this issue, we met with their leader and some of his followers for three consecutive nights. The first night lasted from after the sunset prayer until the call to the night prayer, and we were discussing, and we said to our companion, "Call the adhan," so he called it, and they left. And this is a characteristic of whom? Of Satan, who when he hears the adhan turns away and passes gas. So they left. We knew why they left because we were aware that they do not pray with the Muslim community, nor do they pray the Friday prayer or the congregational prayer, and they are, as you hear, like this group among you. We said, "There is no harm," they left, but with an appointment for a second meeting on the following night, and that would be in their own home where they reside.
The second meeting lasted from after the sunset prayer until midnight ... the fruits began to be harvested and we picked them, and the proof is that we prayed with them and they prayed behind us ... .
The questioner : Praise be to Allah ... .
The Shaykh : But after ...
Another questioner : ... on this occasion, so that I do not forget the word, these people were discussed ... that everyone in the world of scholars, all of them, are disbelievers ... Shaykh Al-Albani ... because ... most of them ... the Shaykh does not sell to you and our call does not reach you ... they were told ... .
The Shaykh : I, praise be to Allah, am a Salafi and from the People of Hadith, and I believe that anyone who is not Salafi in methodology is from
He named you the Muslims
هُوَ سَمَّاكُمُ المُسْلِمِينَand you must follow the Muslim community and their leader
وتلزم جماعة المسلمين وإمامهمThe Shaykh : ... meaning ... there is, as I will now explain in detail, a new phenomenon that brings to our minds the group of declaring people disbelievers, which we thought had perished. And the group of declaring people disbelievers reached this extreme, and I met groups from them and discussed with them extensively in Syria and in Jordan, and Allah the Exalted guided many of them, so much so that due to the length of the discussion on this issue, we met with their leader and some of his followers for three consecutive nights. The first night lasted from after the sunset prayer until the call to the night prayer, and we were discussing, and we said to our companion, "Call the adhan," so he called it, and they left. And this is a characteristic of whom? Of Satan, who when he hears the adhan turns away and passes gas. So they left. We knew why they left because we were aware that they do not pray with the Muslim community, nor do they pray the Friday prayer or the congregational prayer, and they are, as you hear, like this group among you. We said, "There is no harm," they left, but with an appointment for a second meeting on the following night, and that would be in their own home where they reside.
The second meeting lasted from after the sunset prayer until midnight ... the fruits began to be harvested and we picked them, and the proof is that we prayed with them and they prayed behind us ... .
The questioner : Praise be to Allah ... .
The Shaykh : But after ...
Another questioner : ... on this occasion, so that I do not forget the word, these people were discussed ... that everyone in the world of scholars, all of them, are disbelievers ... Shaykh Al-Albani ... because ... most of them ... the Shaykh does not sell to you and our call does not reach you ... they were told ... .
The Shaykh : I, praise be to Allah, am a Salafi and from the People of Hadith, and I believe that anyone who is not Salafi in methodology is from