A discussion regarding a statement found in al-Alusi’s Tafsir, which is
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The Shaykh : So that we make the path easy to reach the location of the problem with me. Is this verse in the middle of the page with you, or at the top, or how?
The questioner : Indeed, I found a woman
The Shaykh : Ah
The questioner : In the middle of the page
The Shaykh : Good.
The questioner : His saying, the Exalted: "So that you may dispose of them, and not..."
The Shaykh : Yes, yes, so if you wish, move to the opposite page
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : You will find in the first third
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : A hadith in which the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said:
The questioner : A jinni, yes
The Shaykh : Did you find the hadith?
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : Please read after the hadith: "And what should be relied upon is"
The questioner :"The non-authenticity of this report"
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner :"And in al-Bahr, they lengthened the stories of her, meaning Bilqis, with what is not established in the Qur'an or in authentic hadith, and what is mentioned of the narratives is most like the tales of the jinn. It appears, assuming the occurrence of interbreeding between humans and jinn, which it is said"...
The Shaykh : Here is the problem now, please proceed
The questioner :"The one who is slapped for the questioner, which it is said"
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner :"Is slapped for the questioner for his stupidity and ignorance, that there is no interbreeding between them"
The Shaykh : What is this statement? So the copy I have matches what you have
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : So I did not understand this meaning
The questioner :"It appears, assuming the occurrence of interbreeding between humans and jinn, which it is said that the questioner is slapped for his stupidity and ignorance, that there is no interbreeding between them"
It means, may Allah know, that he is saying: he denies interbreeding between humans and jinn "It appears, assuming the occurrence of interbreeding between humans and jinn, which it is said", the slapping is in the report of "in"
The Shaykh : No, first of all, the questioner is not mentioned in the context or in the preceding text
The questioner : Yes, indeed
The Shaykh : Then, suppose he slaps the questioner, well, the reason for his stupidity
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : What is the meaning of this statement?
The questioner : It means that it should not be, even just the question, about the occurrence of interbreeding between humans and jinn
The Shaykh : Oh teacher, we are patching things up from our side, but the phrase does not give this meaning.
The questioner : Yes, that is what I understand, may Allah know
The Shaykh : Well, is this phrase correct in your opinion?
The questioner : No, it is not correct
The Shaykh : Yes, that is the intention. The intention is to return to the text written by the author, what is it?
The questioner : By Allah, I mean it seems to me that there is a missing part in the matter
The Shaykh : This is the intention
The questioner : Yes, may Allah know
The Shaykh : Well, this edition you have, you said it was a photocopy of the Bulaq edition?
The questioner : Yes, there is no other, our Shaykh, meaning it is just one, meaning there is none. Al-Alusi was not printed in more than one edition only, then the publishers photocopied it. And they said the same about my printing, such as the Muniriyyah Printing Administration, and Dar Ihya al-Turath
The Shaykh : I have the nineteenth volume, Dar al-Fikr for printing and publishing
The questioner : Ah, I am not telling you, our Shaykh, meaning it is because you know the piracy of publishers, meaning
The Shaykh : Well, now on this page, the first word from the top, the first line, what do you have?
The questioner : And Ibn Abi Shaybah reported that
The Shaykh : Ah, and the bottom?
The questioner : That she judges in what she witnesses, not absolutely
The Shaykh : This is it
The questioner : Yes, indeed
The Shaykh : Glory be to Allah, no, in my mind, there is an image I saw in the Zahiriyyah Library, a Bulaq edition of these letters that are, meaning, more faded than the letters existing today, and on brown paper
The questioner : By Allah, our Shaykh, it is permissible, this original edition
The Shaykh : Yes, that is what I mean
The questioner : This edition is written on it: the Muniriyyah edition
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Yes, indeed
The Shaykh : Good, may Allah reward you with good
The questioner : And you, Shaykh
The Shaykh : Peace be upon you.
The questioner : Peace be upon you and Allah's mercy.
The Shaykh : Please go ahead.
The questioner :"It appears, assuming the occurrence of interbreeding between humans and jinn, which it is said that the questioner is slapped for", meaning if a questioner asked whether it happens or not
The Shaykh : Well, for his stupidity, where is it attached?
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : For his stupidity, with what is it attached?
The questioner : For his stupidity, with his question, meaning
The Shaykh :"Is slapped for the questioner for his stupidity and ignorance"
The questioner : Yes, that is right.
The Shaykh :"That there is no interbreeding between them"
The questioner : It means for his stupidity and ignorance with this question, that there is no interbreeding between them
The Shaykh : What is the meaning of "that there is no interbreeding between them"?
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : How do we connect the last sentence with what comes before it?
The questioner : My master, may Allah know, "Assuming the occurrence of interbreeding between humans and jinn, which it is said that the questioner is slapped for his stupidity and ignorance, that there is not", because it means in "that there is no interbreeding between them"
The Shaykh : This is not the apparent meaning of his text
The questioner : By Allah, our Shaykh, this means I believe the phrase is like this, because in Arabic, "that there is not" is usually written with a preposition, whether it is "ba" or "fa", when it is the derived noun
The Shaykh : Yes, teacher, but what is my intention? What is the result of this sentence? What does he want to say? Meaning, the slapping of the questioner, with what does he slap? With what does he slap this questioner? And what is the relation of "that there is no interbreeding"?
The questioner : He slaps with "that there is no interbreeding between them"
The Shaykh : And it has been said that there is interbreeding
The questioner : Yes, indeed
The Shaykh : Very well.
The questioner : Ah, no, but he means, the author of the tafsir
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : Leans toward denying this interbreeding
The Shaykh : This is understood, may Allah bless you, but he wants to slap the questioner with what? With what he claims, for example, contrary to others, that there is no interbreeding?
The questioner : That is it
The Shaykh : Yes, but this is not clear, there must be a word or a term or...
The questioner : There is only a letter, meaning a letter is perhaps missing: "Which it is said that the questioner is slapped for his stupidity and ignorance in that, by not, that there is no interbreeding between them", meaning with this he slaps with "that there is no interbreeding between them," and this is permissible in Arabic
The Shaykh : Good, may Allah reward you with good
The questioner : And you as well.
The Shaykh : Peace be upon you.
The questioner : And peace be upon you.
The questioner : Indeed, I found a woman
The Shaykh : Ah
The questioner : In the middle of the page
The Shaykh : Good.
The questioner : His saying, the Exalted: "So that you may dispose of them, and not..."
The Shaykh : Yes, yes, so if you wish, move to the opposite page
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : You will find in the first third
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : A hadith in which the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said:
One of Bilqis's parents was a jinni
أحد أبوي بلقيس كان جنياًThe questioner : A jinni, yes
The Shaykh : Did you find the hadith?
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : Please read after the hadith: "And what should be relied upon is"
The questioner :"The non-authenticity of this report"
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner :"And in al-Bahr, they lengthened the stories of her, meaning Bilqis, with what is not established in the Qur'an or in authentic hadith, and what is mentioned of the narratives is most like the tales of the jinn. It appears, assuming the occurrence of interbreeding between humans and jinn, which it is said"...
The Shaykh : Here is the problem now, please proceed
The questioner :"The one who is slapped for the questioner, which it is said"
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner :"Is slapped for the questioner for his stupidity and ignorance, that there is no interbreeding between them"
The Shaykh : What is this statement? So the copy I have matches what you have
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : So I did not understand this meaning
The questioner :"It appears, assuming the occurrence of interbreeding between humans and jinn, which it is said that the questioner is slapped for his stupidity and ignorance, that there is no interbreeding between them"
It means, may Allah know, that he is saying: he denies interbreeding between humans and jinn "It appears, assuming the occurrence of interbreeding between humans and jinn, which it is said", the slapping is in the report of "in"
The Shaykh : No, first of all, the questioner is not mentioned in the context or in the preceding text
The questioner : Yes, indeed
The Shaykh : Then, suppose he slaps the questioner, well, the reason for his stupidity
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : What is the meaning of this statement?
The questioner : It means that it should not be, even just the question, about the occurrence of interbreeding between humans and jinn
The Shaykh : Oh teacher, we are patching things up from our side, but the phrase does not give this meaning.
The questioner : Yes, that is what I understand, may Allah know
The Shaykh : Well, is this phrase correct in your opinion?
The questioner : No, it is not correct
The Shaykh : Yes, that is the intention. The intention is to return to the text written by the author, what is it?
The questioner : By Allah, I mean it seems to me that there is a missing part in the matter
The Shaykh : This is the intention
The questioner : Yes, may Allah know
The Shaykh : Well, this edition you have, you said it was a photocopy of the Bulaq edition?
The questioner : Yes, there is no other, our Shaykh, meaning it is just one, meaning there is none. Al-Alusi was not printed in more than one edition only, then the publishers photocopied it. And they said the same about my printing, such as the Muniriyyah Printing Administration, and Dar Ihya al-Turath
The Shaykh : I have the nineteenth volume, Dar al-Fikr for printing and publishing
The questioner : Ah, I am not telling you, our Shaykh, meaning it is because you know the piracy of publishers, meaning
The Shaykh : Well, now on this page, the first word from the top, the first line, what do you have?
The questioner : And Ibn Abi Shaybah reported that
The Shaykh : Ah, and the bottom?
The questioner : That she judges in what she witnesses, not absolutely
The Shaykh : This is it
The questioner : Yes, indeed
The Shaykh : Glory be to Allah, no, in my mind, there is an image I saw in the Zahiriyyah Library, a Bulaq edition of these letters that are, meaning, more faded than the letters existing today, and on brown paper
The questioner : By Allah, our Shaykh, it is permissible, this original edition
The Shaykh : Yes, that is what I mean
The questioner : This edition is written on it: the Muniriyyah edition
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Yes, indeed
The Shaykh : Good, may Allah reward you with good
The questioner : And you, Shaykh
The Shaykh : Peace be upon you.
The questioner : Peace be upon you and Allah's mercy.
The Shaykh : Please go ahead.
The questioner :"It appears, assuming the occurrence of interbreeding between humans and jinn, which it is said that the questioner is slapped for", meaning if a questioner asked whether it happens or not
The Shaykh : Well, for his stupidity, where is it attached?
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : For his stupidity, with what is it attached?
The questioner : For his stupidity, with his question, meaning
The Shaykh :"Is slapped for the questioner for his stupidity and ignorance"
The questioner : Yes, that is right.
The Shaykh :"That there is no interbreeding between them"
The questioner : It means for his stupidity and ignorance with this question, that there is no interbreeding between them
The Shaykh : What is the meaning of "that there is no interbreeding between them"?
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : How do we connect the last sentence with what comes before it?
The questioner : My master, may Allah know, "Assuming the occurrence of interbreeding between humans and jinn, which it is said that the questioner is slapped for his stupidity and ignorance, that there is not", because it means in "that there is no interbreeding between them"
The Shaykh : This is not the apparent meaning of his text
The questioner : By Allah, our Shaykh, this means I believe the phrase is like this, because in Arabic, "that there is not" is usually written with a preposition, whether it is "ba" or "fa", when it is the derived noun
The Shaykh : Yes, teacher, but what is my intention? What is the result of this sentence? What does he want to say? Meaning, the slapping of the questioner, with what does he slap? With what does he slap this questioner? And what is the relation of "that there is no interbreeding"?
The questioner : He slaps with "that there is no interbreeding between them"
The Shaykh : And it has been said that there is interbreeding
The questioner : Yes, indeed
The Shaykh : Very well.
The questioner : Ah, no, but he means, the author of the tafsir
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : Leans toward denying this interbreeding
The Shaykh : This is understood, may Allah bless you, but he wants to slap the questioner with what? With what he claims, for example, contrary to others, that there is no interbreeding?
The questioner : That is it
The Shaykh : Yes, but this is not clear, there must be a word or a term or...
The questioner : There is only a letter, meaning a letter is perhaps missing: "Which it is said that the questioner is slapped for his stupidity and ignorance in that, by not, that there is no interbreeding between them", meaning with this he slaps with "that there is no interbreeding between them," and this is permissible in Arabic
The Shaykh : Good, may Allah reward you with good
The questioner : And you as well.
The Shaykh : Peace be upon you.
The questioner : And peace be upon you.