Is it correct for Ibn Hazm to say that wudu is not a condition for the prostration of forgetfulness because it occurs after the closing salam of the prayer?
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The questioner : He speaks about the prostration of forgetfulness and says: "We prefer that he be in a state of wudu, or we dislike that he prostrate without wudu, but wudu is not obligatory." He cited the hadith which has a story in it "so it is known that wudu is only obligatory for the prayer, and the prostration of forgetfulness is not a prayer in the sense that it occurs after the salam." So the question now is: does his statement, meaning Ibn Hazm's statement, meaning his argument with this generality—is the generality correct that wudu is obligatory for the prayer, but not for what is not a prayer? Is it correct that the prostration of forgetfulness can be considered not a prayer?
The Shaykh : No, because the prostration of forgetfulness is among the obligations connected to the prayer, and it has two forms in the authentic Sunnah. It is permissible to perform the prostration of forgetfulness before the salam, and it is permissible after the salam. So there is no difference except based on the distinction between the beginning and the end.
The questioner : This means the beginning and the end, this?
The Shaykh : You know it, you know it, because you attended it recently in the session.
The questioner: Yes.
The questioner : Hello.
The Shaykh : Raise your voice, O Alu, yes.
The questioner : The Shaykh : Al-Albani.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : O Shaykh.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : I have a case.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : I have a case.
The Shaykh : And it is.
The questioner : I am twenty-two years old, Alu.
The Shaykh: Hello, hello.
The questioner : Do you hear me?
The Shaykh : I hear you, my brother. Every word you want to stop at, speak about your case and do not stop.
The questioner : I am twenty-two years old, ... years, but what do I do? Do I kill him or leave him?
The Shaykh : Your question is not clear.
The questioner : My question is ... years.
The Shaykh : Your speech is not understood, my brother. Where are you speaking from?
The questioner : From Algeria, from Algeria.
The student : From Algeria.
The Shaykh : Other than your device.
The questioner : There is a small problem here.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Because it is among the obligations connected to the prayer, it is as if it means ... but I wanted to confirm, meaning, if one forgets the prostration after the salam, can the prostration be separated from the prayer, meaning the time has passed, meaning it was not completely connected to the prayer, meaning the prayer's takbir orSunan Abi Dawud 61Hasan Sahih (Al-Albani).
The Shaykh : Okay, stop there. Is it possible to forget a rak'ah from the prayer?
The questioner : This is the answer you expected.
The Shaykh : Praise be to Allah.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : So, if you have understood, then adhere to it.
So he said: I do not want the prayer to make me perform wudu
فقال : ما أريد الصلاة لأتوضَّأThe Shaykh : No, because the prostration of forgetfulness is among the obligations connected to the prayer, and it has two forms in the authentic Sunnah. It is permissible to perform the prostration of forgetfulness before the salam, and it is permissible after the salam. So there is no difference except based on the distinction between the beginning and the end.
The questioner : This means the beginning and the end, this?
The Shaykh : You know it, you know it, because you attended it recently in the session.
The questioner: Yes.
The questioner : Hello.
The Shaykh : Raise your voice, O Alu, yes.
The questioner : The Shaykh : Al-Albani.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : O Shaykh.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : I have a case.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : I have a case.
The Shaykh : And it is.
The questioner : I am twenty-two years old, Alu.
The Shaykh: Hello, hello.
The questioner : Do you hear me?
The Shaykh : I hear you, my brother. Every word you want to stop at, speak about your case and do not stop.
The questioner : I am twenty-two years old, ... years, but what do I do? Do I kill him or leave him?
The Shaykh : Your question is not clear.
The questioner : My question is ... years.
The Shaykh : Your speech is not understood, my brother. Where are you speaking from?
The questioner : From Algeria, from Algeria.
The student : From Algeria.
The Shaykh : Other than your device.
The questioner : There is a small problem here.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Because it is among the obligations connected to the prayer, it is as if it means ... but I wanted to confirm, meaning, if one forgets the prostration after the salam, can the prostration be separated from the prayer, meaning the time has passed, meaning it was not completely connected to the prayer, meaning the prayer's takbir or
its beginning is takbir and its end is taslim
تحريمها التكبير وتحليلها التسليمThe Shaykh : Okay, stop there. Is it possible to forget a rak'ah from the prayer?
The questioner : This is the answer you expected.
The Shaykh : Praise be to Allah.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : So, if you have understood, then adhere to it.
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