What is your opinion regarding the statement that the actions reported from the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) are obligatory if they serve as an explanation of a general text, unless there is evidence that excludes them from being obligatory?
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The Shaykh : Yes, let us return to the subject.
The questioner : ... meaning the bare action, or the action in its absolute sense.
The Shaykh : I did not understand this.
The questioner : The action that...
The Shaykh : I did not understand this until you denied it. Also, you do not need this talk.
The questioner : So, my final word on the issue of Ibn Hazm saying: This action is a detail among the details of prayer, and this action of his...
The Shaykh : May Allah guide you, O Abu 'Abd al-Rahman.
The questioner : By Allah, I did not understand, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : May Allah guide you. You waste your words in vain and then repeat them to me.
The questioner : By Allah, I also agree with your opinion that I wasted my words in vain, but I did not understand, our Shaykh.
The Shaykh : My brother, what you denied, I said I did not intend it; I did not understand it. I understood that you were speaking about an action in prayer.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : And you quote, I repeat the previous words to you.
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : And that the expression is incorrect, and that you quote Ibn Hazm as saying regarding an action among the actions of prayer that this action, as you said, does not necessitate obligation. Ibn Hazm cannot possibly say this.
The questioner : In all cases, regarding all the actions of prayer, our Shaykh?
The Shaykh : May Allah guide you, may Allah guide you. Think about what Ibn Hazm says.
[Al-Baqarah 2:227] Okay.
That this action or these actions do not convey the obligation that is described as "does not necessitate" or "necessitates." It is the command, not the action, that necessitates. No one says that the bare action necessitates obligation like a command does. But when he enumerates the form of prayer, in the expression of the Shafi'is, or among the forms of prayer, or in the absolute expression of the actions of prayer, he says this is not for obligation; it is not that it does not necessitate obligation.
The questioner : So the expression was incorrect.
The Shaykh : And I am saying, yes?
The questioner : I have been saying, may Allah reward you, since the beginning that Ibn Hazm cannot possibly say this.
The questioner : Okay, Shaykh, regarding the issue of "necessitates." In the statement, does the action necessitate obligation or convey obligation? What is the difference between the two?
The Shaykh : It is not said that it necessitates, nor is it said that it conveys. Rather, it is not for obligation. These actions are not for obligation. Why? Because there is no specific command for them. This is the clarification of Ibn Hazm's words. Our discussion with you is regarding your expression of his words.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : Okay, but this... In many commands, it is said that this command does not necessitate obligation. Here a question arises: why is the answer given? Either the answer is correct and the claim is accepted, or it is not accepted. But to say that the action does not necessitate obligation, this is not said.
The questioner : ... meaning the bare action, or the action in its absolute sense.
The Shaykh : I did not understand this.
The questioner : The action that...
The Shaykh : I did not understand this until you denied it. Also, you do not need this talk.
The questioner : So, my final word on the issue of Ibn Hazm saying: This action is a detail among the details of prayer, and this action of his...
The Shaykh : May Allah guide you, O Abu 'Abd al-Rahman.
The questioner : By Allah, I did not understand, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : May Allah guide you. You waste your words in vain and then repeat them to me.
The questioner : By Allah, I also agree with your opinion that I wasted my words in vain, but I did not understand, our Shaykh.
The Shaykh : My brother, what you denied, I said I did not intend it; I did not understand it. I understood that you were speaking about an action in prayer.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : And you quote, I repeat the previous words to you.
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : And that the expression is incorrect, and that you quote Ibn Hazm as saying regarding an action among the actions of prayer that this action, as you said, does not necessitate obligation. Ibn Hazm cannot possibly say this.
The questioner : In all cases, regarding all the actions of prayer, our Shaykh?
The Shaykh : May Allah guide you, may Allah guide you. Think about what Ibn Hazm says.
And if they decide on divorce - then indeed, Allah is Hearing and Knowing.
وإن عزموا الطلاق فإن الله سميع عليمThat this action or these actions do not convey the obligation that is described as "does not necessitate" or "necessitates." It is the command, not the action, that necessitates. No one says that the bare action necessitates obligation like a command does. But when he enumerates the form of prayer, in the expression of the Shafi'is, or among the forms of prayer, or in the absolute expression of the actions of prayer, he says this is not for obligation; it is not that it does not necessitate obligation.
The questioner : So the expression was incorrect.
The Shaykh : And I am saying, yes?
The questioner : I have been saying, may Allah reward you, since the beginning that Ibn Hazm cannot possibly say this.
The questioner : Okay, Shaykh, regarding the issue of "necessitates." In the statement, does the action necessitate obligation or convey obligation? What is the difference between the two?
The Shaykh : It is not said that it necessitates, nor is it said that it conveys. Rather, it is not for obligation. These actions are not for obligation. Why? Because there is no specific command for them. This is the clarification of Ibn Hazm's words. Our discussion with you is regarding your expression of his words.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : Okay, but this... In many commands, it is said that this command does not necessitate obligation. Here a question arises: why is the answer given? Either the answer is correct and the claim is accepted, or it is not accepted. But to say that the action does not necessitate obligation, this is not said.