The carpets, or what did he cite? The questioner: What did he cite.

The Shaykh : The carpets, or what did he cite?

The questioner : What did he cite.

The Shaykh : He says: Muslim narrated from Zayd ibn Khalid al-Juhani from Abu Talhah al-Ansari who said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) say This was mentioned previously, but he cited it because it contains an addition. He said: So I went to the narrator. He said: So I went to Aisha and said: This man is telling me that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said Did you hear the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) mention that? She said: No, but I will tell you what I saw him do. I saw that when he went out on one of his expeditions, I took a carpet. Pay attention that here the carpet (namut) is not specified as to its shape and image. So I took a carpet and hung it on the door. When he came back and saw the carpet, I noticed disapproval on his face. He pulled it until he tore it or cut it, and said She said: So we cut from it two cushions and stuffed them with cotton, and he did not blame me for that. He says: Al-Tirmidhi narrated it. He said "And one should not take from the hadith more than the disapproval of the recommended kind (tanzihi) for covering walls and the like with curtains that have images" Where did he take "images" from? There is no mention of images in the hadith. I repeat the hadith. The hadith of Aisha: She said: I saw that when he went out on an expedition, I took a carpet and hung it on the door. When he came back and saw the carpet, I noticed disapproval on his face. He pulled it until he tore it or cut it, and said She said: So we cut from it two cushions and stuffed them with cotton, and he did not blame me for that. He said "And one should not take from the hadith more than the disapproval of the recommended kind (tanzihi) for covering walls and the like with curtains that have images" There is no mention of images in this hadith. So his statement: Al-Nawawi said "And there is nothing in the hadith that necessitates prohibition, because the reality of the wording is that Allah has not commanded us to do that, and this necessitates that it is not obligatory, nor recommended, and it does not necessitate prohibition" This is the statement of Al-Nawawi, and it is a correct statement. But there is a difference between Al-Nawawi and the author. When Al-Nawawi says this, he looks at the hadith as a story separate from the topic of images and pictures, because there is no mention of images in this story. This is confirmed by the fact that the hadith directs the attention of the reader and listener to another issue that is not, in reality, from the category of prohibitions, but rather from the category of Islamic etiquettes or disliked things that a Muslim should avoid. That is his statement (peace and blessings be upon him) meaning that it is disliked in Islam to place a curtain on a place that does not need to be covered, but rather for adornment. Therefore, the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) said If the story had been a mention of the forbidden images, the effort of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) would have been directed to refuting them, as happened in the hadith of the carpets (qiram), more than refuting the curtain that was placed in a place where there was no need for it. Therefore, the author's gathering of this hadith in the topic of images, when there is no mention of images in it, is something that should not be done, especially since his wording misled the reader into thinking that Imam Al-Nawawi is with him when he cited his explicit statement that this hadith does not indicate prohibition, but rather indicates the disapproval of the recommended kind (tanzihi). That is, covering any place with a curtain, even a white, clear one with no images, where there is no need for this curtain, the prohibition of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) is not for prohibition, so he misleads the reader, first, that Al-Nawawi is with him in interpreting the hadith as being about images, and second, that it is not for prohibition but for the disapproval of the recommended kind (tanzihi). This is what should not be done. Yes.

The questioner : ... .

The Shaykh : No, not here regarding the reason for its delay.

The questioner : There are no images.

The Shaykh : Yes.

The questioner : No, there are no images.

The Shaykh : And ... or ...?

The questioner : ... .

The Shaykh : Yes, that is a marginal note from him, on the occasion of his speech about images. As for the word "carpet" (namut) linguistically, it is not necessary that it contains images.
Al-'Aid 'Abassi: A wall, for example ... like that, is it disliked?

The Shaykh : In what?

The questioner : Dirt, for example ...

The Shaykh : There is something, there is something, meaning from the category of adornment, as they do today. They put a carpet there where there is no need for it.

The questioner : Meaning, defining the carpet (namut) as ... is a wrong definition?

The Shaykh : The word "images" linguistically is wrong, of course, it is not the nature of the carpet (namut).

The questioner : Meaning, you read it from this meaning.

The Shaykh : No, because he put it in parentheses and placed it on the occasion of the speech about images.
Al-'Aid 'Abassi: The clear hadith is that Allah has not commanded us to clothe the wall, this ... .

The Shaykh : Yes, yes, and in any case, the time ... from it, as I told you, the word "images" is not at all from the meaning of the carpet (namut).
Al-'Aid 'Abassi: So you entered ... which is ... .

The Shaykh : I understood.
Al-'Aid 'Abassi: ... .

The Shaykh : On the occasion of the hadith.
Al-'Aid 'Abassi: ... in images.

The Shaykh : How many pages do you have?
Al-'Aid 'Abassi: Yes, one hundred and sixty. Meaning, if it were the nature of the carpet (namut) to have images, he would not have said ... and there were no images under it, there are images.

The Shaykh : Yes, yes, this is what ... that we return to his statement. He explained the carpet (namut) as you heard previously, a cloth or a carpet with patterns and images. It may have decorative patterns, or it may have images. So he brought this transmission because the hadith is about images. As for the linguistic meaning of the carpet (namut), it is not a condition that it has images at all. And this is, in reality, a laxity in expression.

The questioner : ... .

The Shaykh : This is what preceded his statement, yes.
So here we said that there is a misleading of the reader from the author's transmission of Al-Nawawi's words of what he does not want.