What is the meaning of the hadith: (There is no taslim and no gharar in the prayer)? And the statement of Imam Ahmad in his explanation: that one does not say taslim and one is not greeted with taslim?
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The Shaykh : It appears that you are referring to the hadith: , and where is the part about "no taslim and no one saying taslim to you," my brother?! It is not there.
The questioner : I mean, in that sense, in that sense, it is not...
The Shaykh : But that is not the meaning of the hadith.
The questioner : Ahmad ibn Hanbal says... he says completely: One does not say taslim and one is not greeted with taslim.
The Shaykh : Okay, and do you know that it is established in the Sunnah that...
The questioner : I am this.
The Shaykh : Okay, so how can this meaning be a correct meaning? And it is said that in "Sunan Abu Dawud" there is a hadith whose meaning is such and such.
The questioner : Yes, it is, the hadith exists.
Another questioner : I mean, is its authenticity valid?
The Shaykh : May Allah guide us and you.
The questioner : I am asking about its validity, is it valid...
The Shaykh : May Allah accept it [The Shaykh laughs!].
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : My brother, "no taslim" means that you do not say taslim, and this is agreed upon by the scholars, but that one is not greeted with taslim!!
The questioner : Ahmad ibn Hanbal says.
The Shaykh : What do I have to do with Ahmad? You are asking about a hadith, not about Ahmad.
The questioner : About a hadith, Ahmad said: Do not say taslim and do not be greeted with taslim, or do not be greeted and do not be greeted with taslim.
The Shaykh : Look how it has developed? The hadith has developed from the hadith of the Messenger to the words of Ahmad.
The questioner : ... .
Another questioner : I ask by Allah.
The Shaykh : If you allow me to finish here, save your question.
Yes.
There is no taslim and no gharar in the prayer
لا تسليم ولا غرار في الصلاةThe questioner : I mean, in that sense, in that sense, it is not...
The Shaykh : But that is not the meaning of the hadith.
The questioner : Ahmad ibn Hanbal says... he says completely: One does not say taslim and one is not greeted with taslim.
The Shaykh : Okay, and do you know that it is established in the Sunnah that...
The questioner : I am this.
The Shaykh : Okay, so how can this meaning be a correct meaning? And it is said that in "Sunan Abu Dawud" there is a hadith whose meaning is such and such.
The questioner : Yes, it is, the hadith exists.
Another questioner : I mean, is its authenticity valid?
The Shaykh : May Allah guide us and you.
The questioner : I am asking about its validity, is it valid...
The Shaykh : May Allah accept it [The Shaykh laughs!].
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : My brother, "no taslim" means that you do not say taslim, and this is agreed upon by the scholars, but that one is not greeted with taslim!!
The questioner : Ahmad ibn Hanbal says.
The Shaykh : What do I have to do with Ahmad? You are asking about a hadith, not about Ahmad.
The questioner : About a hadith, Ahmad said: Do not say taslim and do not be greeted with taslim, or do not be greeted and do not be greeted with taslim.
The Shaykh : Look how it has developed? The hadith has developed from the hadith of the Messenger to the words of Ahmad.
The questioner : ... .
Another questioner : I ask by Allah.
The Shaykh : If you allow me to finish here, save your question.
Yes.
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