Miscellaneous by Al-Albani-269
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The questioner : Ahmad ibn Hanbal narrated to us, and Abd al-Rahman ibn Mahdi narrated to us, from Abu Hurayrah, from the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), who said: Sunan Abi Dawud 928Sahih (Al-Albani).
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Ahmad said: I think it means that you do not say the salam, and no one says it to you, and a man is made uncertain about his prayer, so he leaves while there is a matter concerning it.
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed.
The questioner : This is the interpretation of Ahmad ibn Hanbal. Does he have a source for this? I mean, the chain of the hadith from its original source.
The Shaykh : Yes, it is authentic and has been traced in *Silsilat al-Ahadith al-Sahihah*, Part Two.
The questioner : Is it in Part Two? Is it here?
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed.
The questioner : What does "no salam" mean?
The Shaykh : "No salam" means that while you are praying, you do not say the salam.
The questioner : The one praying does not say the salam.
The questioner : Does it not include the one praying?
The Shaykh : How can it include him, when there are many hadiths, and they used to greet the Messenger, and he would return their greeting, sometimes with a gesture of the hand and sometimes with a nod of the head.
The questioner : ... meaning it is cited as evidence that when you enter the mosque, you are not required to say "Peace be upon you," ... that you do not say the salam and no one says it to you, if its meaning is the prohibition of the salam entirely.
The Shaykh : In any case.
The questioner : So you understand from Ahmad ibn Hanbal like this; you understand from Ahmad.
The Shaykh : What am I saying? I am stating my opinion: the Messenger did this, and his Companions did this.
The questioner : The argument is that this is in the early hadiths; it tells you that this was abrogated, just as the salam was abrogated. The salam was originally "Peace be upon you," and while he was praying, he would say, "I greeted the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him), and he did not return my greeting three times. He did not return my greeting and said:Sunan Ibn Majah 1019Sahih (Darussalam) Its meaning is that this was abrogated, just as this was abrogated here.
The Shaykh : What abrogated it?
The questioner : Yes?
The Shaykh : What abrogated it?
The questioner : No salam.
The Shaykh : What does "no salam" mean?
The questioner : Yes, this, I also understood it to mean this.
The Shaykh : Okay, so understand it for others as well; understand this that you understood.
The questioner : Meaning, there is no uncertainty in the salam or in the greeting.
The Shaykh : Yes, yes, but your question was about Ahmad's interpretation, whereas you asked about the hadith.
The questioner : The hadith says: "There is no uncertainty in prayer or in the salam," "There is no uncertainty in prayer or in the salam." One of the interpreters interprets it as: there is no uncertainty, no deficiency, neither in the salam nor in its like, meaning do not have any deficiency in your prayer or in ... .
The Shaykh : Yes, yes, I am saying that I included it in *Silsilat al-Ahadith al-Sahihah* and clarified ... and its correct meaning.
The questioner : There is no uncertainty in prayer or in the salam.
The questioner : We say: a man is made uncertain in his prayer, so he leaves while he is in doubt about it, meaning from the uncertainty ...
Another questioner: Meaning, do not doubt.
The questioner : Do not doubt in his prayer.
Another questioner: Nor in the salam.
...
The questioner : It appears that the people's interpretation is the most correct: "There is no uncertainty in prayer or in the salam."
The Shaykh : And it is.
The questioner : That it is not from the salam in the prayer, but rather.
Another questioner: The deficiency, meaning.
The questioner : The deficiency.
The questioner : That is how some of the interpreters say.
The Shaykh : "No uncertainty and no salam," what does ... mean.
Al-Id al-Abassi: If it said "no uncertainty in the salam."
The Shaykh : How is the addition?
The questioner : No uncertainty in his prayer.
Another questioner: No uncertainty in the salam in the prayer, or in the salam.
...
The questioner : No uncertainty in prayer or in the salam.
The questioner : No uncertainty in the salam or in the prayer.
The questioner : Or in the prayer or in the salam, this is not in the prayer or in ... .
...
The Shaykh : Who said ...? I mean, a blind man prays, and no one says the salam to him while he is praying, that is what he is saying, yes.
The questioner : Perhaps the two narrations from Imam Ahmad that you quoted from Imam Ahmad are different.
The Shaykh : I do not remember now what we quoted, in any case, refer to *Silsilat*.
There is no loss in prayer nor in salutation.
لا غرار في صلاة ولا تسليمThe Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Ahmad said: I think it means that you do not say the salam, and no one says it to you, and a man is made uncertain about his prayer, so he leaves while there is a matter concerning it.
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed.
The questioner : This is the interpretation of Ahmad ibn Hanbal. Does he have a source for this? I mean, the chain of the hadith from its original source.
The Shaykh : Yes, it is authentic and has been traced in *Silsilat al-Ahadith al-Sahihah*, Part Two.
The questioner : Is it in Part Two? Is it here?
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed.
The questioner : What does "no salam" mean?
The Shaykh : "No salam" means that while you are praying, you do not say the salam.
The questioner : The one praying does not say the salam.
The questioner : Does it not include the one praying?
The Shaykh : How can it include him, when there are many hadiths, and they used to greet the Messenger, and he would return their greeting, sometimes with a gesture of the hand and sometimes with a nod of the head.
The questioner : ... meaning it is cited as evidence that when you enter the mosque, you are not required to say "Peace be upon you," ... that you do not say the salam and no one says it to you, if its meaning is the prohibition of the salam entirely.
The Shaykh : In any case.
The questioner : So you understand from Ahmad ibn Hanbal like this; you understand from Ahmad.
The Shaykh : What am I saying? I am stating my opinion: the Messenger did this, and his Companions did this.
The questioner : The argument is that this is in the early hadiths; it tells you that this was abrogated, just as the salam was abrogated. The salam was originally "Peace be upon you," and while he was praying, he would say, "I greeted the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him), and he did not return my greeting three times. He did not return my greeting and said:
During the prayer one is preoccupied.
إن في الصلاة لشغلاThe Shaykh : What abrogated it?
The questioner : Yes?
The Shaykh : What abrogated it?
The questioner : No salam.
The Shaykh : What does "no salam" mean?
The questioner : Yes, this, I also understood it to mean this.
The Shaykh : Okay, so understand it for others as well; understand this that you understood.
The questioner : Meaning, there is no uncertainty in the salam or in the greeting.
The Shaykh : Yes, yes, but your question was about Ahmad's interpretation, whereas you asked about the hadith.
The questioner : The hadith says: "There is no uncertainty in prayer or in the salam," "There is no uncertainty in prayer or in the salam." One of the interpreters interprets it as: there is no uncertainty, no deficiency, neither in the salam nor in its like, meaning do not have any deficiency in your prayer or in ... .
The Shaykh : Yes, yes, I am saying that I included it in *Silsilat al-Ahadith al-Sahihah* and clarified ... and its correct meaning.
The questioner : There is no uncertainty in prayer or in the salam.
The questioner : We say: a man is made uncertain in his prayer, so he leaves while he is in doubt about it, meaning from the uncertainty ...
Another questioner: Meaning, do not doubt.
The questioner : Do not doubt in his prayer.
Another questioner: Nor in the salam.
...
The questioner : It appears that the people's interpretation is the most correct: "There is no uncertainty in prayer or in the salam."
The Shaykh : And it is.
The questioner : That it is not from the salam in the prayer, but rather.
Another questioner: The deficiency, meaning.
The questioner : The deficiency.
The questioner : That is how some of the interpreters say.
The Shaykh : "No uncertainty and no salam," what does ... mean.
Al-Id al-Abassi: If it said "no uncertainty in the salam."
The Shaykh : How is the addition?
The questioner : No uncertainty in his prayer.
Another questioner: No uncertainty in the salam in the prayer, or in the salam.
...
The questioner : No uncertainty in prayer or in the salam.
The questioner : No uncertainty in the salam or in the prayer.
The questioner : Or in the prayer or in the salam, this is not in the prayer or in ... .
...
The Shaykh : Who said ...? I mean, a blind man prays, and no one says the salam to him while he is praying, that is what he is saying, yes.
The questioner : Perhaps the two narrations from Imam Ahmad that you quoted from Imam Ahmad are different.
The Shaykh : I do not remember now what we quoted, in any case, refer to *Silsilat*.