The questioner: Ahmad ibn Hanbal narrated to us, Abd al-Rahman ibn Mahdi narrated to us, from Abu Hurayrah, from the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him)
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The questioner : Ahmad ibn Hanbal narrated to us, Abd al-Rahman ibn Mahdi narrated to us, from Abu Hurayrah, from the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), who said: Sunan Abi Dawud 928Sahih (Al-Albani).
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : Ahmad said: "In my view, this means that one should not say the salam, nor should one be greeted with the salam, and a man should not be made uncertain about his prayer such that he leaves while still in doubt about it."
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : This is the interpretation of Ahmad ibn Hanbal; does he have a source for this? I mean, the chain of the hadith from its original source.
The Shaykh : The hadith is authentic, and it is recorded in "Silsilat al-Ahadith al-Sahihah," Volume Two.
The questioner : Is Volume Two available here?
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : What is the interpretation of this? What does "no salam" mean?
The Shaykh : "No salam" means that while you are praying, you do not say the salam.
The questioner : The one praying does not say the salam.
The questioner : Does this not include the one praying?
The Shaykh : How does it include him, when there are many hadiths, and they used to greet the Messenger, and he would return their greeting, sometimes with a hand gesture and sometimes with a nod of the head?
The questioner : ... meaning, it is used as evidence that when you enter the mosque, you do not say: "Peace be upon you..." that you do not say the salam, nor are you greeted with the salam, if its meaning is the complete prohibition of the salam.
The Shaykh : In any case.
The questioner : So, do you understand better than Ahmad ibn Hanbal? Is that it? Do you understand better than Ahmad?
The Shaykh : Why am I stating my opinion? I am saying: The Messenger did this, and his Companions did this.
The questioner : So, the argument now is that in the early hadiths, it is said to you that this was abrogated, just as the salam was abrogated. The salam was originally "Peace be upon you" while he was praying; he said: "I greeted the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him), and he did not return my greeting three times, he did not return my greeting," and he said:Sunan Ibn Majah 1019Sahih (Darussalam), meaning that just as this was abrogated, this was also abrogated here.
The Shaykh : What abrogated it?
The questioner : Yes?
The Shaykh : What abrogated it?
The questioner : "No salam."
The Shaykh : What does "no salam" mean?
The questioner : Yes? Yes, I also understood it to mean that.
The Shaykh : Okay; so explain it to others as well, explain what you understood.
The questioner : It is difficult, meaning, there is no uncertainty in the salam or in the greeting.
The Shaykh : Yes, yes, but your question was about Ahmad's interpretation, whereas you asked about the hadith.
Another questioner : What is the hadith saying?
The questioner : The hadith is not Ahmad's interpretation...
Another questioner : "There is no uncertainty in prayer or in the closing salam."
The Shaykh : "No salam."
The questioner : "There is no uncertainty in prayer or in the closing salam." One of the interpreters explains it as: there is no uncertainty, no deficiency, neither in the salam nor in its like; meaning, there is no deficiency in your prayer or in your closing salam.
The Shaykh : Yes, I am saying that I included it in "Silsilat al-Ahadith al-Sahihah," and we clarified... and its correct meaning.
The questioner : "There is no uncertainty in prayer or in the closing salam."
The questioner : We say: A man is made uncertain in his prayer and leaves while still in doubt about it; meaning, from the root of uncertainty (gharar).
Another questioner : Meaning, do not create doubt.
The questioner : Do not create doubt in your prayer.
Another questioner : Nor in the closing salam.
...
The questioner : It appears... this interpretation is the most correct: "There is no uncertainty in prayer or in the closing salam."
The Shaykh : And what is it?
The questioner : That it is not about the salam in prayer, but rather...
Another questioner : The deficiency, meaning.
The questioner : The deficiency.
The questioner : So, some of the interpreters say.
The Shaykh : "No uncertainty and no salam," what does "no salam" mean?
Eid Abbasi : And no uncertainty, if he said: "No uncertainty in the salam."
Another questioner : "No uncertainty in the salam in prayer or in the salam."
...
The questioner : "There is no uncertainty in prayer or in the closing salam."
The questioner : Here... there is no uncertainty in the salam or in prayer.
The questioner : Or in prayer or in the salam, yes, neither in the prayer nor in...
Another questioner : Meaning, there is no deficiency, neither in the prayer nor in the salam.
...
The Shaykh : Who said: "He is not greeted with the salam"?
Another questioner : There is a question here, professor, by Allah.
The Shaykh : Meaning, a blind man is praying, and he is not greeted with the salam while he is praying, that is what he is saying.
Yes.
The questioner : Perhaps the two narrations are from Imam Ahmad; because what you quoted from Imam Ahmad is not what is present.
The Shaykh : I do not remember now what we quoted, in any case, refer to "Silsilat al-Ahadith al-Sahihah."
Yes.
There is no loss in prayer nor in salutation.
لا غرار في صلاة ولا تسليمThe Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : Ahmad said: "In my view, this means that one should not say the salam, nor should one be greeted with the salam, and a man should not be made uncertain about his prayer such that he leaves while still in doubt about it."
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : This is the interpretation of Ahmad ibn Hanbal; does he have a source for this? I mean, the chain of the hadith from its original source.
The Shaykh : The hadith is authentic, and it is recorded in "Silsilat al-Ahadith al-Sahihah," Volume Two.
The questioner : Is Volume Two available here?
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : What is the interpretation of this? What does "no salam" mean?
The Shaykh : "No salam" means that while you are praying, you do not say the salam.
The questioner : The one praying does not say the salam.
The questioner : Does this not include the one praying?
The Shaykh : How does it include him, when there are many hadiths, and they used to greet the Messenger, and he would return their greeting, sometimes with a hand gesture and sometimes with a nod of the head?
The questioner : ... meaning, it is used as evidence that when you enter the mosque, you do not say: "Peace be upon you..." that you do not say the salam, nor are you greeted with the salam, if its meaning is the complete prohibition of the salam.
The Shaykh : In any case.
The questioner : So, do you understand better than Ahmad ibn Hanbal? Is that it? Do you understand better than Ahmad?
The Shaykh : Why am I stating my opinion? I am saying: The Messenger did this, and his Companions did this.
The questioner : So, the argument now is that in the early hadiths, it is said to you that this was abrogated, just as the salam was abrogated. The salam was originally "Peace be upon you" while he was praying; he said: "I greeted the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him), and he did not return my greeting three times, he did not return my greeting," and he said:
During the prayer one is preoccupied.
إن في الصلاة لَشُغلًاThe Shaykh : What abrogated it?
The questioner : Yes?
The Shaykh : What abrogated it?
The questioner : "No salam."
The Shaykh : What does "no salam" mean?
The questioner : Yes? Yes, I also understood it to mean that.
The Shaykh : Okay; so explain it to others as well, explain what you understood.
The questioner : It is difficult, meaning, there is no uncertainty in the salam or in the greeting.
The Shaykh : Yes, yes, but your question was about Ahmad's interpretation, whereas you asked about the hadith.
Another questioner : What is the hadith saying?
The questioner : The hadith is not Ahmad's interpretation...
Another questioner : "There is no uncertainty in prayer or in the closing salam."
The Shaykh : "No salam."
The questioner : "There is no uncertainty in prayer or in the closing salam." One of the interpreters explains it as: there is no uncertainty, no deficiency, neither in the salam nor in its like; meaning, there is no deficiency in your prayer or in your closing salam.
The Shaykh : Yes, I am saying that I included it in "Silsilat al-Ahadith al-Sahihah," and we clarified... and its correct meaning.
The questioner : "There is no uncertainty in prayer or in the closing salam."
The questioner : We say: A man is made uncertain in his prayer and leaves while still in doubt about it; meaning, from the root of uncertainty (gharar).
Another questioner : Meaning, do not create doubt.
The questioner : Do not create doubt in your prayer.
Another questioner : Nor in the closing salam.
...
The questioner : It appears... this interpretation is the most correct: "There is no uncertainty in prayer or in the closing salam."
The Shaykh : And what is it?
The questioner : That it is not about the salam in prayer, but rather...
Another questioner : The deficiency, meaning.
The questioner : The deficiency.
The questioner : So, some of the interpreters say.
The Shaykh : "No uncertainty and no salam," what does "no salam" mean?
Eid Abbasi : And no uncertainty, if he said: "No uncertainty in the salam."
Another questioner : "No uncertainty in the salam in prayer or in the salam."
...
The questioner : "There is no uncertainty in prayer or in the closing salam."
The questioner : Here... there is no uncertainty in the salam or in prayer.
The questioner : Or in prayer or in the salam, yes, neither in the prayer nor in...
Another questioner : Meaning, there is no deficiency, neither in the prayer nor in the salam.
...
The Shaykh : Who said: "He is not greeted with the salam"?
Another questioner : There is a question here, professor, by Allah.
The Shaykh : Meaning, a blind man is praying, and he is not greeted with the salam while he is praying, that is what he is saying.
Yes.
The questioner : Perhaps the two narrations are from Imam Ahmad; because what you quoted from Imam Ahmad is not what is present.
The Shaykh : I do not remember now what we quoted, in any case, refer to "Silsilat al-Ahadith al-Sahihah."
Yes.
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