Discussion of the Zionist movement and its founder, and a debate with an enthusiastic man who accuses the scholars of being the cause of the Muslims' weakness and humiliation

The questioner : Shaykh, if you please, regarding the role of Herzl, who founded the Zionist movement. If you please, he died at the age of 34. He is the one who established the Zionist conferences that continue to this day. All our sheikhs in the mosques stand up and say, "O Allah, be against Zionism."

The Shaykh : What

The questioner : A man who was 34 years old.

The Shaykh : What do we need this talk for? May Allah bless you. We have the prescription, we have the divine prescription. Let us agree to apply this divine prescription. And what do we care about the Jews? Like this and like that.

The questioner : Allow me, Shaykh, 'Umar ibn...

The Shaykh : We know that they did not reach the occupation of Palestine until after very precise and very detailed planning.

The questioner : Yes.

The Shaykh : This is a known thing, but what is the solution for us? What must we do? Should we move around, weep, and shake our shoulders? And that we want to fight and strive in the path of Allah, and then if we cannot strive in the path of Allah, why...

The questioner: My masterThe Shaykh

The Shaykh : No faith and no preparation.

The questioner : I am not going to flatter you. You said at the beginning to leave the research to those with expertise.

The Shaykh : Yes, that is correct.

The questioner : And I want to leave the research to those with expertise.

The Shaykh : May Allah reward you with all good.

The questioner : We, as a flock, follow our scholars.

The Shaykh : Good.

The questioner : If we are in such a dilemma as we have lived in, and we find that the great scholars of the Ummah, each one is like the others, starting from the head, the one who is now called the President of the Commission for Promoting Virtue and Forbidding Vice, the President of the Council of Senior Scholars, 'Abd al-'Aziz ibn Baz, with what did he issue a ruling? What is my knowledge compared to the knowledge of 'Abd al-'Aziz ibn Baz? What is my knowledge compared to the knowledge of the Virtuous Shaykh of al-Azhar when they stand up and permit the land of Islam to disbelief? You go, gather in Istanbul after a month or two, and I am speaking on a tape. You go, gather after a month or two in the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, and you are the scholars, you are the people of expertise. Look into it, and we would be sinful if we did not comply.

The Shaykh : We are back...

The questioner : If you are not all agreed among yourselves.

The Shaykh : We are back, Professor, to the language of emotions.

The questioner : Ah

The Shaykh : We are back to the language of emotions, meaning you are now placing the responsibility on the scholars.

The questioner : One hundred percent.

The Shaykh : I beg you.

The questioner : By Allah, if it were in my hand, I would flog them in the streets, all of them.

The Shaykh : I beg you, hehe.

The questioner : Because when I sat in the mosque, I held back.The Shaykh : Dr. 'Ata al-'Aziz, and I held back from the poor man. I said to him, "O man, you are sitting there telling me, 'A storm that will destroy them in the wilderness.'" And tomorrow, by Allah, I sat in my office until three in the morning, and I was calculating. I am an aviation engineer, I calculate, do you remember Muhammad, and we were talking? I calculated how it is possible for us, if I took on the task, my task is calculating the ammunition I want to load on the planes, what can I do? I found that it was empty talk. I went to him, I called him at his house, I said, "I am coming to you, O Abu Usamah." He said, "Please come." We went. I said, "O man, it is not possible for you to have five thousand or six thousand worshippers and stand there saying, 'A storm that will destroy them in the wilderness.' The tribe of Banu al-Asfar gathers, I do not know who, from a man of Assyria."

Another questioner : A tale of superstition.

The questioner : The truth is, Dr. 'Ata, the Friday after yours, from a temperature of one hundred percent boiling to a temperature of ten below zero, freezing.
Al-Halabi: ThisThe Shaykh : Who warns about it.

The questioner : They killed? No, that is not it. You moved us from the boiling point to the freezing point, O Virtuous One.The Shaykh : You are our scholars, and 'Umar ibn al-Khattab, when he said, "O Allah, grant me faith like the faith of the old women," he did not escape the reckoning just to pray on the fitrah.

The Shaykh : That is what he said, meaning.

The questioner : Yes, that is what we heard, that is what we read, they taught us in school.

The Shaykh : Of course, from your sheikhs.

The questioner : Yes. But when it comes to the scholars of the Ummah, go, my brother, agree among yourselves, and come to us, who are religiously illiterate, let us catch up with you, issue rulings for us. But if you are unable to agree, just do not come back to accuse us emotionally. Meaning, if I came to you and said, "Give me a plan, I will keep waiting until you give birth to ten generations and raise them, and after I raise them, I will follow your plan." What then? I will follow the plan of Salah al-Din, cut off the necks, and fix the matters, and that is it, and what you want to do.

The Shaykh : Poor is the one who wants to cut off necks.

Another questioner : In our current situation.

The Shaykh : The coward.

The questioner : Any coward.

The Shaykh : The one who wants to cut off necks is the coward.

The questioner : The coward does not do anything.

The Shaykh : I am asking you, tell me no.

The questioner : No

The Shaykh : Okay, the disbeliever? Say no.

The questioner : No

The Shaykh : The believer.

The questioner : Yes.

The Shaykh : You denied it just now.

The questioner : How did you deny it?

The Shaykh : You forgot, that is why I ask you. The language of storms, leave it to me, Professor. The language of emotions does not advance or delay anything at all.

The questioner : I want to be with you, how many sessions for us to understand each other's language?

The questioner : Hehehe.

The Shaykh : Hehehe.

The questioner : ... There is a lack in my expression. I say I accuse myself, I have a lack in expression, I am not able to make myself... understood by you.

The Shaykh : There is no power and no strength except by Allah.

The questioner : And otherwise, we agree on the goal, and we agree on, "O son, sit down, may Allah guide you, sit down, may Allah guide you, O my father, sit down." By Allah, Shaykh, it is something that cuts into the heart when you come out.

The Shaykh : "You hope for salvation but have not taken its paths, for the ship does not run on the land."
The questioner : I have now recited to you the hadith, and I am very, very sorry to say to you that you did not agree with me on the hadith. You went back, just as the proverb says, "Halimah returned to her old habit." You returned to the unbridled emotions that cannot possibly cause a state to rise against a state of disbelievers who are exploiting. The Messenger described the disease to you and described the cure. O man, stay with the cure. Leave this language, it does not benefit you or anyone else. Now, how long are you raging, and how many people can possibly rage with you, like when your companion dives?The Shaykh : With the poor man, you find the mosque full of rage, and then soap foam, and nothing happened.