The author of the aforementioned book al-Umdah states that the 'illah (operative cause) in the leadership of the traveling group and the leadership of the congregation are equal, and since this is explicitly stated in the texts, why is it prohibited?
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The questioner : The al-Umdah, O Shaykh, is for his argument using the leadership of the congregation as evidence for the leadership of the traveling group.
The Shaykh : How?
The questioner : His argument is an analogy between the leadership of the congregation and the leadership of the traveling group.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : He says it is a valid analogy and that the shared 'illah (operative cause) is present. So the current research is into what the 'illah (operative cause) in the leadership of the traveling group is. He says the truth is that the 'illah (operative cause) is established by the text in the hadith itself, but it is derived...
The Shaykh : What is the 'illah (operative cause) explicitly stated in the authentic hadith?
The questioner : The 'illah (operative cause) that is, at the end of his research, is that the number is not...
The Shaykh : I ask you, what is the 'illah (operative cause) explicitly stated in the hadith according to their claim?
The questioner : According to his claim, it is the number, and it is not...
The Shaykh : Tell me, tell me, where is the 'illah (operative cause) in the hadith?
Al-Halabi: If you are three
The questioner : If you are three, in... He will bring it now.
The Shaykh : No, I don't think so, yes.
The questioner : He says that since the ruling in the hadith is contingent upon the multiplication of descriptions, it is necessary to specify which of these descriptions it is.
The Shaykh : How?
The questioner : His argument is an analogy between the leadership of the congregation and the leadership of the traveling group.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : He says it is a valid analogy and that the shared 'illah (operative cause) is present. So the current research is into what the 'illah (operative cause) in the leadership of the traveling group is. He says the truth is that the 'illah (operative cause) is established by the text in the hadith itself, but it is derived...
The Shaykh : What is the 'illah (operative cause) explicitly stated in the authentic hadith?
The questioner : The 'illah (operative cause) that is, at the end of his research, is that the number is not...
The Shaykh : I ask you, what is the 'illah (operative cause) explicitly stated in the hadith according to their claim?
The questioner : According to his claim, it is the number, and it is not...
The Shaykh : Tell me, tell me, where is the 'illah (operative cause) in the hadith?
Al-Halabi: If you are three
The questioner : If you are three, in... He will bring it now.
The Shaykh : No, I don't think so, yes.
The questioner : He says that since the ruling in the hadith is contingent upon the multiplication of descriptions, it is necessary to specify which of these descriptions it is.